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Guest
23-09-2006, 01:48 PM
I mean the dwarf mines, not the Draraccle Den ;P My English is not so good, so i have problems to describe^^

Wildlotus
23-09-2006, 05:40 PM
Can you die in this game? And if you can, is there a "retry" function so you don't have to start all the way back at the beginning again? This game looks so awesome I really do wanna give it a go. But I have this weird, inexplicable fear of dying. It always makes me nervous and I get all paranoid and jumpy throughout and after the duration of gameplay. It happened to me with Soul Reaver (Defiance). I loved the graphics so much, but I had to have people physically sitting beside me so I wouldn't go hysterical and get a heart attack during combat sequences. Needless to say, I had to have many volunteer "sitters" cos no one could stand (or actually, sit) and watch me play indefinitely whilst they just acted as a fear absorber of sorts.

Oh yea I am digressing. So my question is "can you die in this game?" Thanks for bearing with the ranting Lotus.

Morgoth
23-09-2006, 09:40 PM
If the life of all three of the party members will drop to 0 points then there's "game over". As long though as one of the party members is still alive the others will regenerate again through resting or can be healed by the remaining party member.
Seeing it that way, you can't die in this game in the true meaning of death, if the life of the party members drops to 0 they become unconscious but will regenerate with time or through magic again, unless all three are unconscious.

Speaking of fear, it's a game mate. Face it instead of trying to avoid it, go on and experience the dying in the games while remembering that it's just game and you can reload anytime, and the fear will lose it's might over you. It's only difficult to face, but if you try you'll see this fear going. You need to face a fear to defeat it - something you know well isn't scary but common.

Wildlotus
24-09-2006, 07:33 AM
Ok thanks for the advice and insight. Guess i haven't been giving myself much exposure.

Lotus chants to herself "It's just a game, it's just a game, it's just a game..." and walks with anticipation towards the Lands of Lore. :unsure:

matthijs
24-09-2006, 09:31 AM
Lotus :) Lands of Lore doesn't have any scary textures or anything, and if you "die" it just looks like you're sleeping so i guess you can play it without fear!

One thing I do (when you have a party of 2), is when one of the two is unconscious just use the other to heal the unconscious one and he's back in business. And if you think you aren't going to make it you can always run away.

And just save alot to make sure that if it does happen you don't have to replay a large part of the game again.

Guest
24-09-2006, 10:20 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Sep 22 2006, 04:53 PM) 256729</div>
I have a problem in the mines ;-( The only way i can go is drop through a hole in level2 and fall down to lvl3. I arrive in a room with some kinda hydra monsters. They have a nest there which you can burn out with a fireball. There is also a stone monster, which i killed with Freeze.
But i can't get out there anymore. There is one plate on the ground but you cant move it, if you walked trough once ;-( Plz help me dudes!
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Undertaker
24-09-2006, 10:46 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Matthijs @ Sep 22 2006, 09:44 PM) 256763</div>
Not sure what place you mean. One of the places I can think of you have to do this: Go to the "nest" and click on one of the things there (should be a woman inside that can join you if you want to) and use your map to find a switch.

Or find a crack in the wall or something :P.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Undertaker @ Sep 23 2006, 08:51 AM) 256846</div>
Yes, there's a crumbly wall somewhere in the North East. Attack it with a pick and it will disappear.
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Guest
24-09-2006, 12:53 PM
I do not mean the draraccle Den, i mean the urbish mines level 2^^ Maybe i should take a screenshot, but i do not know, how to do it ;)

Vongoethe
24-09-2006, 03:04 PM
Press Ctrl + F5 in DosBox, the screenshot will be saved in a subdirectory of DosBox named capture, or any other you defined in DOSBox.conf

Undertaker
25-09-2006, 09:25 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Sep 24 2006, 12:53 PM) 257091</div>
I do not mean the draraccle Den, i mean the urbish mines level 2^^ Maybe i should take a screenshot, but i do not know, how to do it ;)
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I meant the Mines as well ^_^ . In the Draracle's Caves you had to use the Sledge to smash crumbly walls. Now you will need a Pickaxe to get through the crumbly walls in the Mines.

Sorry for the confusion. :)

Guest
25-09-2006, 11:25 AM
Ok, i will try it^^ Thx for help dude ;)

Undertaker
25-09-2006, 07:29 PM
No problem! ^_^

As much as I hate to bump my posts, doesn't anyone know what to do?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Undertaker @ Sep 20 2006, 06:40 PM) 256320</div>
Ehm, it appears that I'm having some technical difficulties running the game. I'm using VDMSound and it says "IO error with FILEDATA.FDT <2> - exiting". Anyone knows what I should do?[/b]

Prey
25-09-2006, 07:38 PM
I have the CD version of the game and I can't get any of the voices to work.. The only program I use is DosBox, and I'm not sure which version it is, but.. anyway yes.. voices dont' work.. have the cd version please help

Undertaker
26-09-2006, 09:42 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Prey @ Sep 25 2006, 07:38 PM) 257342</div>
I have the CD version of the game and I can't get any of the voices to work.. The only program I use is DosBox, and I'm not sure which version it is, but.. anyway yes.. voices dont' work.. have the cd version please help
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Maybe the problem lies in the ingame configuration. Press ESC while playing and select Audio Configuration (or something like that). Move the speech bar all the way to the right.

Hope that helps...

The Fifth Horseman
26-09-2006, 11:51 AM
And configure the soundcard to the following values:
Sound Blaster 16
Adress 220 h
IRQ 7
DMA 1
Cause that's the sound hardware DosBox emulates under default settings.

f.romano
05-10-2006, 12:21 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Undertaker @ Jun 30 2006, 10:10 PM) 240813</div>
@Vellendarl: Oh, I get it now. I didn't read your post right. For the passwords, just look a couple of posts above! :P

@Nils: The pit wasn't an illusion; it will always appear when you press the button.
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Undertaker, I have the same problem and, as one user with the same problem said in the past, the old hag does indeed ask for pages beyond 16 (18 sometimes). In addition, the passwords to the book of lore (which someone claimed to be limited) change a bit on mine. The ones that were systemeatically reported don't work. Can anybody help? It would suck to haev to restart the game with a patch or with another version of the game.

Undertaker
07-10-2006, 08:28 AM
Just post or PM me with a list of locations of the words and I'll look them up.

And what's with the pit in that quotation?

Guest
26-10-2006, 05:05 PM
I have a problem with the game.

On the second copyprotect check in white tower the old lady ghost always asks such word that does not exist. Usually wants a third or fift word in first line or second line. But how there could be a third or fift word in first line?? only 1 word there is.

anyway, even if not asked a word in headings line, there is always to few words on the line, or no word started with given letter.

Guest
26-10-2006, 05:22 PM
I have been asked following words:
page 6, line 6, word 1, t
page 10, line 3, word 3, t
page 17. line 3, word 3, r
page 16, line 2, word 1, l
Page 5, line 1, word 3, l
Page 5, line 2, word 5, t
and so on and so on...

if any of you know reason for such idiotism, or sees that I'm, please tell.

Guest
27-10-2006, 02:47 AM
:sos:I tried to play every single thing I can, before goint to white tower, but still... the old hag keeps asking for word that does not exist at all. :sos:

Undertaker
29-10-2006, 12:21 PM
I think you're looking in the wrong manual. You need to look in the Book of Lore, not the technical manual. The Book of Lore contains information about the history and the races of the Lands. I still have this book somewhere and I will look up those words you've posted earlier. It might be a few days until I have the time to search for the book, though. Please be patient...

Gottfried
29-10-2006, 05:47 PM
again great game. This was my first RPG and in time I think it was great choice for start. Game is funny, nice, still not much complicated and interesting. I can only suggest it to everyone :ok:

Undertaker
23-11-2006, 09:05 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 26 2006, 05:22 PM) 263701</div>
I have been asked following words:
page 6, line 6, word 1, t
page 10, line 3, word 3, t
page 17. line 3, word 3, r
page 16, line 2, word 1, l
Page 5, line 1, word 3, l
Page 5, line 2, word 5, t
and so on and so on...

if any of you know reason for such idiotism, or sees that I'm, please tell.
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I've finally found the book. Now, as for the letters:

page 6, line 6, word 1, topic
page 10, line 3, word 3, they
page 17. line 3, word 3, r --> incorred letter!
Maybe: page 17. line 3, word 3, secret
Or: page 17. line 1, word 3, rich
page 16, line 2, word 1, located
Page 5, line 1, word 3, l --> Incorrect letter!
Maybe: Page 5, line 1, word 3, Thomgogs
Page 5, line 2, word 5, t --> Incorrect letter!
Maybe: Page 5, line 2, word 5, and

I don't know about the wrong letters... Maybe you could give me some more words?

uk_john2005
23-11-2006, 09:12 AM
Undertaker, you are a star! :)

mattmcloed
26-11-2006, 11:06 AM
I have a winzip file of Lands of Lore CD Version which is much better than the original

also there is no need for the manual searching passwords

and as already featured Patrick Stewart (Star Trek TNG, X - Men) is King Richard and also does other game narations

if youd liek a copy id be happy to email them to you

mike

mattmcloed
26-11-2006, 10:09 PM
hi all just tried to send thsi lands o lore cd version via email and afraid it wasnt having any of it

guess its just way too big

was taking hours to up load let alone send

sorry to those who emailed asking for copies

The Fifth Horseman
27-11-2006, 10:00 AM
Sending a CD image through e-mail... DUDE! :hysteric:

Just split it into 100-meg parts (for example with Total Commander) and upload to Rapidshare. Far more convenient for both you and everybody else.

Guest_Smokey_*
02-12-2006, 08:49 AM
How do you guys hex edit the items in Lands of Lore? I have the addresses but as far as I know, the hex codes for items are not constant and I keep getting "Illegal Item(s)".

Saphire
02-12-2006, 11:36 AM
The thing is that the inventory places change in every area you are in, so if you really want to cheat in this game you're better off with editing the inventory at the beginning of the game, as long as you didn't leave Gladstone Keep yet.

Scatty
02-12-2006, 01:37 PM
Rather the value of the item changes, the inventory place stays the same. Look here for the hexlist - DLH (http://dlh.net/chtdb/chtview.php?lang=ger&sys=pc&disp=e2795)
"Die 48 Items im gemeinsamen Gep ck" (they forgot to translate it) means "The 48 items in shared inventory".

Guest_Smokey_*
02-12-2006, 05:05 PM
I know the addresses for the shared inventory is constant and I do have all the addresses.

What I meant is that the hex codes for each item changes as you move along, and trying to get new items just gives me "Illegal Item". So for example, how do you hex edit a Greatsword early in the game?

The Fifth Horseman
04-12-2006, 11:14 AM
Is there any sort of logic for item hexcodes? You might try to work from there.
Otherwise, just keep trying.

Undertaker
11-12-2006, 06:15 PM
Uh, don't know if this is any help, but a friend of mine once sent me a ZIP with a savegame with some nice items not to be found anywhere in the game. A guy with the nickname Reanimator made them. Maybe you'd like me to upload it at Rapidshare?

Guest
12-12-2006, 05:22 AM
Is that savegame late in the game? If so, I don't think it will help in hex editing items early in the game.

Can anyone confirm the lower/upper limits of HP/MP gain for all characters during level up?

I did some testing with Michael, and these are the results

Michael
Starts with 20 HP and 6 MP

Fighter: 6-22 HP per level
one much earlier post says 12-25, but I've gotten from 6-11, however can't confirm 23-25

Rogue: 2-12 HP per level

Mage: 1-6 HP, 12-25 MP per level

Undertaker
12-12-2006, 12:33 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Dec 12 2006, 06:22 AM) 271351</div>
Is that savegame late in the game? If so, I don't think it will help in hex editing items early in the game.

Can anyone confirm the lower/upper limits of HP/MP gain for all characters during level up?

I did some testing with Michael, and these are the results

Michael
Starts with 20 HP and 6 MP

Fighter: 6-22 HP per level
one much earlier post says 12-25, but I've gotten from 6-11, however can't confirm 23-25

Rogue: 2-12 HP per level

Mage: 1-6 HP, 12-25 MP per level
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The savegame is from the very start of the game. :max:

I think Fighter upper and lower limits vary each character. Any other character than the main characters can get up to 25, I believe.
Rogue and Mage are correct. Ak'shel can gain up to 35, though. Maybe is lower limit is higher as well.

Guest_Smokey_*
12-12-2006, 07:51 PM
Yes, please upload that savegame?
Are you still in contact with that friend who sent you the savegame? Maybe he knows how the item hex codes work in LOL.

About the Fighter level HP for Michael...although my results were 6-22, it doesn't mean that 23-25 can't be gotten for him. Maybe I was just really unlucky. I've tried about 100 times and I've only gotten 22 ONCE.

The Fifth Horseman
13-12-2006, 04:13 PM
You can use Attachments in this forum to upload the savegame here. It will stay until you choose to remove it.

Guest
16-12-2006, 06:51 PM
what is the code to return to the castle, because when im tried the guard ask me a password please help me.

Vlad
17-12-2006, 03:38 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Apr 10 2005, 12:33 AM) 93102</div>
Help! The game doesn't work for me! After I choose my guy, the screen goes black and all I hear is this annoying beeping sound! ARGH!
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It will work with DOSBox, although there may be a way to run it without it.

Vlad
17-12-2006, 03:51 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bobbin @ Apr 9 2005, 01:52 AM) 92689</div>
Originally posted by mahahelel@Apr 9 2005, 03:22 AM
Umm, i cant use item, or don't understand how can someone help me. :blink:
I also can't seem to get the password right
what is the item you can't use, or what do you want to do?

the manual for the password protection is posted above. this should help you out.
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I started playing the game and got to the first password. I answered it correctly using the manual and had no problems. So I continue to play through absolute Hell because I refuse to use walkthroughs and so on (either that or I just suck at playing games)- and I sell Hell because I invested hours playing the game 'the hard way.' Anyway, all of a sudden I'm asked for a password again. No problem, right? I go to the manual to answer the question being asked by some old hag ghost woman and I fail and get booted to DOSBox. I'm not a complete idiot, and am certain I was selecting the right word but even after over an hour of this I couldn't get it to work. On one occaision it actually listed a page number that didn't exit (19 or something). Any idea why this might be? Is there a crack I can use to get around it altogether? I tried both fresh copies of the game and of the manual and it still won't let me play. I was on stage 5 of 7 or something and was really looking forward to winning the game... please help!

edwin
17-12-2006, 02:18 PM
where i can found a walkthou of this game?

Saphire
18-12-2006, 10:36 AM
A good one can be found at the German site DLH (http://dlh.net/), here's a direct link to a good walkthrough with screenshots of maps - Link (http://dlh.net/chtdb/chtdl.php?lang=ger&id=2792).

bby
18-12-2006, 11:38 AM
rather a long time since somebody post up something here..but i wanna ask..i have a windows 98 and i planned to play Lands of Lore 1 on it..will it give any problems to my windows 98?

The Fifth Horseman
18-12-2006, 02:14 PM
That depends. Some DOS games work perfectly on Windows 9x, some don't at all, and the worst thing is that this isn't exactly consistent either.
Try running it on your Windows, if it won't work use the "Reboot to Dos" option in system shutdown menu.

bby
20-12-2006, 02:04 AM
i tried installing it..run the setup and now whenever i click the .exe file..they will say insufficient memory..i kinda forgot the numbers..but i tried many things to settle it yet cant..any help on that..i really miss this game though..*winks*

Saphire
20-12-2006, 10:01 PM
I would suggest that you quit Windows 98 and restart in Dos mode, then you shouldn't have any problems with the setup. Or you can run it in Dos prompt (the little useful attachment on either your desktop or in the programs in Start menu) and there usually shouldn't come any problems.

Guest_Phoenix_*
21-12-2006, 03:42 AM
Hello All. I just downloaded the CD Version of Lands of Lore, but i dont know what to do next? do i burn all the files onto a CD? could someone walk me through it? :sos:

bby
21-12-2006, 08:05 AM
thx sapphire..i try that..

narkooegle
22-12-2006, 11:43 PM
When the CD-version of this game was released, Westwood also made a 3 minture backstory to all of Lands Of Lore called "lore Of The Lands". Narrated by Patrick Stewart. I was avaliable on the CD.

Ive found it on youtube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IK_IhgScOF8
quote nostalgic to watch :bleh:

bby
24-12-2006, 07:42 AM
i still dunno why i m getting a msg of not enough conventional memory of 125552..i m running of win 98 with 192 RAM...sigh.....

Undertaker
26-12-2006, 09:26 PM
Sorry I'm so late. It completely slipped my mind. Anyway, here are the savegames. I hope to receive information about the hex-editing soon.

Credits go to the guy with the nickname Reanimator, not me!

Vicarious
06-01-2007, 07:30 PM
Having trouble playing the game I lets me choose a character but then the screen goes black and nothing happens any advice on what to do? (New at playing old dos games so any help will be appreciated.)

Scatty
06-01-2007, 07:34 PM
Download DosBox from here (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/download.php?main=1) and try to run the game in it. Also here (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php) you can find a manual for the DosBox with description of all commands and how to run it.

humorguy
23-01-2007, 07:03 PM
Saphire, thanks for the walkthrou and maps DHL link. Very good indeed!

I am playing the speech version, which makes the game 10x better! But one little thing can show you how games are not the same any more. And that is just watching the intro and seeing the little goblin running to his Mistress and having to take a little breather in the middle of the stairs! That was probably no more than a few minutes work and yet it shows how the developers/publishers thought. Even a character killed straight away gets a personality by that little breather at the top of the stairs! In any modern game, that gremlin would run up those stairs in one go and not be out of breath at the top because the developer/publisher would say 'lets save a couple bucks by not bothering, given the character is a bit part!' That's if they would even give it even that much thought!

So that little guy, taking a breather halfway up the stairs is a little thing, but it says so much!

Scatty
23-01-2007, 09:09 PM
That's what I liked about the early Westwood games, they always produced a feeling of a real, lively world where the player was a part of it. Certainly made with love for detail and the work.

Guest
27-01-2007, 10:34 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scatty @ Jan 23 2007, 10:09 PM) 276179</div>
That's what I liked about the early Westwood games, they always produced a feeling of a real, lively world where the player was a part of it. Certainly made with love for detail and the work.
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Can't get it to work. I am using an up to date sytem. Is it even posible? I have tried almost everything.

humorguy
27-01-2007, 10:55 PM
try DOSBox with the front end for it D-Fend.

Undertaker
28-01-2007, 12:08 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(humorguy @ Jan 23 2007, 08:03 PM) 276164</div>
Saphire, thanks for the walkthrou and maps DHL link. Very good indeed!

I am playing the speech version, which makes the game 10x better! But one little thing can show you how games are not the same any more. And that is just watching the intro and seeing the little goblin running to his Mistress and having to take a little breather in the middle of the stairs! That was probably no more than a few minutes work and yet it shows how the developers/publishers thought. Even a character killed straight away gets a personality by that little breather at the top of the stairs! In any modern game, that gremlin would run up those stairs in one go and not be out of breath at the top because the developer/publisher would say 'lets save a couple bucks by not bothering, given the character is a bit part!' That's if they would even give it even that much thought!

So that little guy, taking a breather halfway up the stairs is a little thing, but it says so much!
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You know, I never looked at it that way. But you're completely right! Lands of Lore is a true masterpiece; best game I've ever played.

KiLL4H
28-01-2007, 01:12 PM
hey!!!
this is one of the greatest games ever ;)
but i doesn't work on my pc... :wallbash:
i've installed xp on my pc can somebody help me ??? :kosta:
i don't know why it doesn't work plzzzz help meee :unsure:

humorguy
28-01-2007, 01:36 PM
We will need a little more information than that/ Are you using DOSBox? If not google it and download it. If you are what is going wrong? More info needed!!!!

The Fifth Horseman
29-01-2007, 02:29 PM
It seems you are trying to run the game in plain Windows. I strongly suggest you use DosBox (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net) instead.
You can download it here (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/download.php?main=1).

You might want to check out the official DosBox FAQ (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php), and particularly this part of it. (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=Basic+Setup+and+Installation+of+Dos Box) It is quite helpful for users unfamiliar with DosBox.

Stitchface
04-02-2007, 08:16 PM
Hey, does anybody else think that ranged weapons are almost entirely useless? Not that I've really tried to use them, but it seems that there's no place where the bad guys are so far away that they can't reach you quickly, and then you'll have to faff about changing weapons. Plus loads of them have their own ranged weapons, so you either want to close the distance or wait around a corner for them to come. And finally.. if you really want to get them from a distance, spells will do it. That's my case and I'm sticking to it.

Also, is there are a list anywhere of the weapons in the game and how good they are? My inventory's always half full of weapons just because I never know if I'll have an urgent need for an axe called 'emasculator' or something. And what is the deal with that Orc boss's axe early in the game? It sells for more than most weapons, but doesn't seem to do that good in a fight...

Undertaker
13-02-2007, 08:19 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stitchface @ Feb 4 2007, 10:16 PM) 277997</div>
Hey, does anybody else think that ranged weapons are almost entirely useless? Not that I've really tried to use them, but it seems that there's no place where the bad guys are so far away that they can't reach you quickly, and then you'll have to faff about changing weapons. Plus loads of them have their own ranged weapons, so you either want to close the distance or wait around a corner for them to come. And finally.. if you really want to get them from a distance, spells will do it. That's my case and I'm sticking to it.

Also, is there are a list anywhere of the weapons in the game and how good they are? My inventory's always half full of weapons just because I never know if I'll have an urgent need for an axe called 'emasculator' or something. And what is the deal with that Orc boss's axe early in the game? It sells for more than most weapons, but doesn't seem to do that good in a fight...
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Well, one of the problems with ranged weapons is that good ones don't appear until late in the game. Early on, the bow you can buy from Buck is quite nice (it would be comparable with a weapon of 20 might). But for your characters, it appears to be very difficult to hit targets. Also, there doesn't appear to be benefit for characters with big strength (Conrad, Michael) and the damage appears to be less than it should be, as well. This was probably meant to balance things out, but now they are indeed a bit obsolete.

However, the damage of a good crossbow or arbalest can still be quite impressive. Also, keep in mind that most ranged attacks of monsters are laughable as well (with just a few exceptions), so there's no harm in going in a ranged fight with them if you can't take the heat.

About that axe, it was meant to have an effect that instantly kills enemies 10% (not sure about exact chance) of each time you damage a monster with it, but it doesn't appear to work or it was removed from the weapon, probably the latter. Check out this site if you want information about weapons. I can't seem to load the tabels anymore though, but maybe you can: http://www.angelfire.com/darkside/landsoflore/1stats.html

Good luck!

Guest
13-02-2007, 10:25 AM
The ranged weapons, especially the crossbow Valkyrie, are nice to increase the rogue levels though. Once in castle Cimmeria, there's a chest on the second level that'll require rogue level of 7 or higher to pick, so you'll need one character that has either all 7 levels or 5 levels + jade necklace + battle axe Master.
As for the link above, this one is better as it's the same but loads properly - www.employees.org/~pwilson/lands/wep.html (seems I can't insert a proper link here :tai:)

Undertaker
13-02-2007, 05:37 PM
I've found the right link: http://ethereallore.envy.nu/1stats.html :max:

Stitchface
15-02-2007, 11:33 AM
Useful stuff.. although I've finished it now. Ding dong, the witch is dead etc. Luckily I kept one crossbow, as at least one essential door/chest in the castle couldn't be unlocked until I had a level 4 rogue. Cue spending ages running away from bad guys trying to shoot them with the damn thing...

maquick
18-02-2007, 04:44 AM
I'm really early in the game and I'm confused. After beating rolands manor my walkthrough says I should buy the bow from bucks skins. Howver, this leaves me with 104 gold and I need 100 per person to return on ferry.
I assume it will cost me 200 to come back to buy bow and another 200 to come back again later. Thats a lot of gold right now. Did I make a mistake by buying the longsoword for 125 G earlier? It seems to be a waste to sell the bow back for 100 G to return just to spend another 400 later to come back and return. At least(thank god) you can sell items back at the same amount it costs to buy. I'm sure this seems paltry long term, but gold is tight right now, and I really want that bow both to increase rogue skill and have ranged attack.

Guest
18-02-2007, 07:53 AM
You'll need the 200 gold only once to travel back to Gladstone, since you won't return to this part of the game anymore. You can leave the bow be as well, it's not as good as other ranged weapons you'll find later in the game. There'll be also throwing stars soon in the draracle cave for you to level the rogue skill.

Shalashaska
22-02-2007, 11:49 PM
I can´t get past the guard that want´s the password from the Game Manual. I looked at the manual on Abandonia.com´, found the word and wrote it, but it didn´t work. If someone could tell me how to pass this guard I would be very grateful.

Undertaker
23-02-2007, 09:58 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shalashaska @ Feb 23 2007, 01:49 AM) 280569</div>
I can´t get past the guard that want´s the password from the Game Manual. I looked at the manual on Abandonia.com´, found the word and wrote it, but it didn´t work. If someone could tell me how to pass this guard I would be very grateful.
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You're looking in the wrong manual. Try page 5 ( http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?s...=4574&st=60 (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4574&st=60) ) for the words you're looking for. :max:

Guest
23-02-2007, 03:23 PM
I already looked at that.. But the guard wants other pages, lines and words. Not the numbers that are on this forum.

Scatty
23-02-2007, 10:28 PM
Hey, simply download the full-speech CD version of the game here (http://www.jucaushii.ro/gamespace_865_downloads_Lands_of_Lore_The_Throne_o f_Chaos.html) and forget such worries.

Guest
10-03-2007, 01:12 PM
I'm using DosBox 7. I can start the game but after the intro when I choose a character the game shuts down and I'm back in DosBox mode. Any help? Thanks.

Scatty
10-03-2007, 02:03 PM
Maybe a previous version of DosBox helps? Also, which version of the game do you use? The floppy one from this site or a full-talkie CD version?

humorguy
10-03-2007, 04:40 PM
To the above 'guest'. If you have speech enabled then the game will crash as the version here has no speech. Reinstall and untick speech and tick text, then you'll be okay.

winniepooh
25-03-2007, 01:37 PM
Hi,

One question.

I just got a new computer and now have to run dosbox to play LOL.

But how can I get a full screen istead of just a small box showing?

humorguy
25-03-2007, 02:18 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(winniepooh @ Mar 25 2007, 01:37 PM) 284896</div>
Hi,

One question.

I just got a new computer and now have to run dosbox to play LOL.

But how can I get a full screen istead of just a small box showing?
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Go to the DOSbox page, or just google a front end called 'D-Fend'. It allows simple set up of a game and then D-Fend calls up DOSBox. Just set the cycles for the games, etc, tick the 'full-screen' box and then run the game via D-Fend and the game will start full screen. Also, by setting the game up in D-fend, you don't have to set it up again, just start it within D-Fend. Much better than setting the game up every time you start DOSBox.

_r.u.s.s.
25-03-2007, 06:59 PM
or hit alt-enter...

Prephax
25-03-2007, 11:22 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Omuletzu @ Apr 8 2005, 04:43 PM) 92511</div>
As i understand it, Lands of Lore 2 was made only for windows.... so it should be inferior to the first part, but i could be wrong
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Not really. The game can be used in DOS mode and WINDOWS.

I´m sure because i have this game. GREAT GAME!!!

PD: I have the sequel LANDS OF LORE III too.

The Fifth Horseman
26-03-2007, 12:56 PM
But how can I get a full screen istead of just a small box showing?[/b]
Open dosbox.conf and go to the line that says fullscreen=false. Change it to say fullscreen=true.

For any further questions, you might want to first check the official DosBox FAQ (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php), and particularly this part of it. (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=Basic+Setup+and+Installation+of+Dos Box) It is quite helpful for users unfamiliar with DosBox.

carlamouse
03-04-2007, 02:10 AM
I got to the end and blew Scotia away, but the finale never comes up, the game just goes into a black screen. Has anyone else had this happen?Hours of game play and all for naught?? Bit of help, please!

Havok
03-04-2007, 05:50 PM
Great game, just downloaded it a few days ago. After setting it up in dosbox i realise i played it when new. heh

my problem now is i'm in Draracle's Cave and i didn't find the jewelled dagger or silver cup before i found the Draracle. So since there was a cave in i'm guessing i can't back track to the second level? so what are my options? do i lose a few hours? in fact i've only used a couple save slots so far so it may be quite a few hours. i tried using a couple trainers for walking through walls.. Lands of Lore Trainer VE1.22 by Network (David Jury) couldn't hook the keyboard input.. could that be a doxbos conflict? the other trainers i've found were for other versions of the game.. i've got version 1.05 of the game.

Anything i can do? I really dont want to start the game all over again.

Any help greatly appreciated

Tito
03-04-2007, 07:32 PM
I'm quite sure you don't have to start again, the first time I reached the Draracle I didn't have any of those items, but I remember not needing to go back to the second level to aquire them. Search a bit more in the levels you can access and I'm sure you'll find one of them.

Havok
03-04-2007, 09:03 PM
Thanks for the quick reply Tito. You've given me the confidence to dive back into it.

Scatty
03-04-2007, 10:16 PM
I remember you need to put one of the "common" daggers that you should have found underway, in one of the nishes that opens after you press 2 or 3 buttons nearby. The nishe closes, though after pressing the buttons again it opens again, but the dagger is gone. You can either find the jeweled dagger or the silver chalice, but not both.
Just walk along all the walls again and watch for not noticed before buttons etc. There should be a chest somewhere with the jeweled dagger in it, if I remember correctly. Don't know anymore where you can find the chalice, though.

Havok
04-04-2007, 01:14 AM
back again. still trapped on levels 3 and 4. i think may have left something behind or not explored thuroughly. the only dagger i was able to transform became a "back biter" and it appeared in the same niche it was placed in at the end of a long hall. I dont have a pick axe on me or in an area i now seem to be able to access. I alsoi have an iron key left over. and some other items i wonder about but nothing the Dracacle will accept.

Tito
05-04-2007, 01:01 PM
Mmmm, I may be wrong here, as I played the game a long time ago but, maybe you have to place two or three daggers with special names in the "Dagger in, dagger out" hole in order to get the jeweled one. Damn! I'm gonna play the game again to see it by myself, curiosity is too strong.

Scatty
06-04-2007, 08:23 AM
Right, that must be it! The pick axe. You need to return back to a level of entry, to the place where there are the pitholes and three buttons to deactivate them. Fall into one of the holes (save before!), fight the nasty lizard, resque the girl from the cocoons and there also should be the hammer somewhere. With it you can smash walls that have a damaged texture on it. That's how you can escape this small level, and that's how you can proceed to the Draracle, also.

Tito
06-04-2007, 02:12 PM
I'm quite sure you couldn't access level 3 and 4 without smashing some walls, so now I don't know what's going on (if you haven't got the pick axe, you shouldn't e able to reach the area where you can transform daggers).

Tito
10-04-2007, 07:37 AM
Finally got it! You have to use dagger Stilleto and Razor in the "Dagger in, dagger out" hole. After that, you can pick the lock that appears in that same place after switching the button to the right. The wall will dissapear and you'll face a chest that I had to smash (maybe with a high level rogue you can lockpick it, I'm not sure). Inside there is the Jeweled dagger. I have to say that the silver cup way is much easier, but gives less experience.

Guest
12-04-2007, 02:18 AM
why is the one w/ music and speech 142megabytes? And the one from abandonia 11 mb? Are the music and speech files that big?

Also the one from abandonia gives me an error message after I choose my character, even when I choose no music or sounds in setup.

The Fifth Horseman
12-04-2007, 02:24 PM
why is the one w/ music and speech 142megabytes? And the one from abandonia 11 mb? Are the music and speech files that big?[/b]
Yups, they are.

Maerryji
27-04-2007, 01:01 PM
Found some time and played again. With some preparations, I've completed the game in 1 hour 27 minutes.
(Character: Michael Level: Nightmare). Does anyone want to try to improve this record?

Just to remind what is "Nightmare" level: a special setting available through hex-code cheaing where monsters are somewhat thinner but extremely rapid (at least, in disk version). Use the hex-editor, find the byte with the address 00000253 and set it to the value 38x ("8" character) (this also affects other settings). Then load the game and check the settings. If you see "Monsters are: Main menu" you're in the nightmare.

I can describe the way you can pass the game quickly, as well as my usual way to complete the game which is somewhat redundant but safe. However, the forum is not a proper place for this, because after a few months it becomes hard to find the useful information you've seen here. A site where such manual could be saved and become easily available would be useful.
I could also provide some more specialized information, like hex-editing items. However, this technique is not easy to describe, so don't ask me to post it here.

Maerryji
27-04-2007, 01:28 PM
A note on HP and MP.

There is most probably a dice system used for HP improvements. One Mage level gives you a value of one die (1–6), one Rogue level — two dice (2–12), and Fighter level — four dice (4–24). So the probability to see +24 HP at one Fighter level improvement is 1/1296 which is probably too low. I think the best result I have seen was +23 HP (however, I have seen +4 HP a few times, an event of the same probability, so maybe I am a bit wrong). If you have a time you can save right before the level and try to get as much as you have patience for. In my opinion, +21 HP ("very good") is probable enough to try this, +19 HP ("good") you may make in less than ten attempts, +17 HP ("fine") need probably three or four attempts. (See the warning below).

All the characters except Ak'shel get +18–+25 MP per level, and Ak'shel gets +25–+37. My advice is to save the game before you get the Mage level and repeat getting it until you have the maximum. (This does take some time but the result worths that. Say, Conrad at 3rd level may cast Heal: IV only if you did so, and Ak'shel has at most 180 MP at 5th level which is enough for Mist of Doom: IV + Mist of Doom: I.)

Warning: Keep your eye on the maximal HP. There is a borderline crossing which you begin having a troubles with healing. Once your character gets 128 HP, Heal: III and Heal: IV will become much less helpful when he is in "dead" ("unconscious" for those who afraid to face the truth) state. In general, you get only about 16 HP when you are healing character with (max HP – HP) > 127.

Maerryji
27-04-2007, 02:27 PM
Nightmare level.

Disk version - byte 00000253 (4th byte in "00000250" string, since it covers the bytes 00000250-0000025F).
CD version - byte 0000025E

Setting it to 38 ("8") you get:
Music:off Sounds:off Monsters are:Main menu Smooth scrolling:on Floating cursor: off.
Changing the settings is up to you, but if you modify the "Monsters are" position, you won't get back to "nightmare" level without hex-editing save file again.

Have a nice tough game!

Alchemist
27-04-2007, 03:01 PM
Here are the save games in disk version. For all the four characters game was saved in the initial position, and the "nightmare" level was implemented.
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Reanimator
02-05-2007, 05:30 PM
[attachmentid=3984]
I think YOU'd have to see it... :w00t:

Guest
12-05-2007, 04:44 PM
Hello guys, i have searched for many trainers for lands of lore and i keep finding only trainers for the disk version 1.22. Is there a trainer for the cd version 1.02?

Guest
19-05-2007, 06:55 PM
I'd love a bit of help, as I'm failry newbie'ish when it comes to this.

- I have downloaded Daemontools and mounted the game file as CD-Drive D:\

- I have installed the game on my C:\ drive.

- I start up DOSBox and mount the game directory C:\ and the CD-Drive D:\

When I run LOLCD.EXE in DOSBox, it tells me that it doesn't find my CD drive.

What to do?

Mike_G
19-05-2007, 07:29 PM
I was playing the version from here and I haven't had to mount it on a virtual drive. By just dragging LANDS onto the DosBox icon it runs fine for me.

_r.u.s.s.
22-05-2007, 09:10 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ May 19 2007, 08:55 PM) 290897</div>
I'd love a bit of help, as I'm failry newbie'ish when it comes to this.

- I have downloaded Daemontools and mounted the game file as CD-Drive D:\

- I have installed the game on my C:\ drive.

- I start up DOSBox and mount the game directory C:\ and the CD-Drive D:\

When I run LOLCD.EXE in DOSBox, it tells me that it doesn't find my CD drive.

What to do?
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you dont need any daemon tools. just unpack the game on to your HDD, mount the directory with dosbox. in dosbox run setup and, after choosing settings, run "LANDS"

Guest
24-05-2007, 08:33 PM
I'm terribly stuck in this game due to a kind of glitch that I've never encountered in a game before.

If I put a rock at my feet, I simply cannot target it... the mouse cursor turns into the "walk backwards" pointer instead. I have gotten by this issue on most occasions, by approaching the item from a different direction so that I can successfully target it. I'm in the Urbish Mines now, though, and need coal for the machine in order to drain water from a flooded stairway. I use the pickaxe on the cave wall so that the coal comes off, but its simply impossible to pick any of it up as it lies in a dead-end, so that I cannot approach from other directions.

What causes the problem I'm having the the navigation cursors? It was never a problem when I played the game a few years ago.

I'm playing through DOSBox.

Scatty
25-05-2007, 07:35 AM
Did you try to step one space back and see if you can pick it then up? That usually works, when you can't pick things from the same space up where you're standing.
Also, try to turn yourself to right or left, that helps sometimes, too.

Guest
25-05-2007, 06:17 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scatty @ May 25 2007, 07:35 AM) 291289</div>
Did you try to step one space back and see if you can pick it then up? That usually works, when you can't pick things from the same space up where you're standing.
Also, try to turn yourself to right or left, that helps sometimes, too.
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Of course, that was the first thing I tried, and it does often help... however, the way those pieces of coal are placed, it doesn't help at all.

Zerqent
25-05-2007, 11:29 PM
First, to whoever posted above me.. Turn floating cursor of, thats what those arrows on your screen are.


Second, I just love this thread, found it by accident when I tried to figure out what that "Gnarl" sword really is for.

So for my "discovery", I don't know if this is anything new, my random luck or whatever..

Many years ago, I once experienced getting some kind of Halberd from the creatures in Opinwood (the non-orcs). I often tried to get it again, but never quite succeeded doing that. But today I actually got two, and in Yvel..

So I always follow the "be-nice" rule, give money to strangers etc. What happened today was that I first explored Yvel, and picked one of the locks in the NW corner. (The place where there is two locked doors). Coming out from that door I went across the street to an open door. Inside I found "Halberd Sever". After exploring Yvel I went to the white tower to start exploring there. 2 x Long Sword "Gnarl" dropped for me in lvl 1, so I goggled them to see if they had any uses and found this thread. I realised I had never had the "Hand of Fate" spell before, so I exited the Tower and went back to Yvel. While searching for the door with the scroll in, I accidentally went into the same room where I had found the Halberd earlier. And guess what, there was a new one there now. "Halberd Widow", which is actually gives my character more might than a regular Great Sword.

My theory is that it spawned due to me setting free the prisoner in Tower lvl1. I have no idea if this is true though, just got that theory from reading some other comments.

Dunno if this is anything new, but never happened to me before. And also think it's my first time picking that chest in tower lvl 1 on my first try and getting the nice Shield :)

Guest
25-05-2007, 11:32 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tito @ Apr 10 2007, 07:37 AM) 286528</div>
Finally got it! You have to use dagger Stilleto and Razor in the "Dagger in, dagger out" hole. After that, you can pick the lock that appears in that same place after switching the button to the right. The wall will dissapear and you'll face a chest that I had to smash (maybe with a high level rogue you can lockpick it, I'm not sure). Inside there is the Jeweled dagger. I have to say that the silver cup way is much easier, but gives less experience.
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Actually you just need one of those "special" daggers. I at least have confirmed uses of both a stick and star to unlock it. Still need one dagger though.

(Sorry for two posts in a row, might register tomorrow :))

Guest
25-05-2007, 11:46 PM
This may sound really stupid...

I have played this game many times, but I am not sure of two things.

1) Where EXACTLY do you get the Hand of Fate scroll? I remember getting it once but never again.
2) Where DO you get Caustic Fog? I didn't even know this was a spell you could get until now...

Zerqent
26-05-2007, 10:32 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ May 26 2007, 01:46 AM) 291385</div>
1) Where EXACTLY do you get the Hand of Fate scroll? I remember getting it once but never again.
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http://folk.ntnu.no/eiriha/divimg/hof.jpg

This is where I think I got it last night :P -- Where my cursor is

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ May 26 2007, 01:46 AM) 291385</div>
2) Where DO you get Caustic Fog? I didn't even know this was a spell you could get until now...
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Does this thing actually exists as a spell? Or are all references only to the green skull?

Scatty
26-05-2007, 11:08 AM
I know there's this "death ghost" spell, forgot it's name right now, and it's a level higher than Hand of Fate. But where one can get it this I don't recall, but it is available.

Zerqent
26-05-2007, 12:09 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scatty @ May 26 2007, 01:08 PM) 291435</div>
I know there's this "death ghost" spell, forgot it's name right now, and it's a level higher than Hand of Fate. But where one can get it this I don't recall, but it is available.
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That's the Mists of Doom spell. Think you get it in the Catwalk Caverns or about that time at least.

Scatty
26-05-2007, 05:38 PM
Right, that's the one, thanks for reminding.
The Caustic Fog spell though is only available through the use of the green skull. It might have been implemented for regular use in a beta of Lands of Lore, but not in the full game anymore. There's no way to get it, except hex-editing your save game, maybe.

Zerqent
26-05-2007, 09:46 PM
The weird thing is that it was referred to in a walkthrough I read yesterday. "Use either the skull or the caustic fog spell" ... That's what made me wonder :)

Guest
28-05-2007, 12:14 PM
I was playing this game last week, but took a break after the Urbish Mines. Now, when I'm ready to continue playing, I for some reason can't get the game running. When I click the LANDS file with the MS DOS icon my screen turns black as if its loading the game, but after three seconds it returns me to Windows. I havent made any changes to the game, or to my computer, since the last time I played. What to do?

Scatty
28-05-2007, 04:30 PM
Did you try to play it in DosBox (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/download.php?main=1&begaming_website_session=9203604281a8e2b5a4bd703f8 1d1b24b)?

arlesya
18-06-2007, 06:25 AM
Intro for whoever is in trouble: In my computer it only worked with DOSBox.

About the game:

I loved it! I never really got to love Eyes of the Beholder, to be quite honest, but this one caught me. The game becomes more and more interesting. I think the graphics are pretty aswesome for the time it was made. I can't comment on the sound as...erm... my ....erm... computer has no sound at the moment :crybaby: Anyways, only the mouse thing gets me kinda annoyed from time to time as it also got me annoyed in my beloved Ultima Underworld. Sometimes it just felt like is too much to be done with this little control. Or maybe I'm just freaking slow... :whistling:

Tip: If you can't run it...TRY HARDER!! It's worth it, believe me.

Scatty
18-06-2007, 08:05 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(arlesya @ Jun 18 2007, 08:25 AM) 294930</div>Anyways, only the mouse thing gets me kinda annoyed from time to time as it also got me annoyed in my beloved Ultima Underworld. Sometimes it just felt like is too much to be done with this little control. Or maybe I'm just freaking slow... :whistling: [/b]
Why don't you steer it with the keyboard? The cursor keys on the number block on the right side are best suited for it, with 9 8 7 2 for straight directions and 4 6 for strafing, just like on the game's display. All you need to do then is to click with the mouse on each member's weapon or spell icon to attack and that's it ;)

arlesya
21-06-2007, 03:46 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scatty @ Jun 18 2007, 05:05 AM) 294938</div>
Why don't you steer it with the keyboard? The cursor keys on the number block on the right side are best suited for it, with 9 8 7 2 for straight directions and 4 6 for strafing, just like on the game's display. All you need to do then is to click with the mouse on each member's weapon or spell icon to attack and that's it ;)
[/b]

:blink:
oh, boy.... that was complicated. I prefer trying to speed up my brain for faster mouse using hehehe but thanks anyway ^_^

Scatty
21-06-2007, 07:10 AM
It sounds more complicated than it is, try it. With short adaptation you'll be probably steering it like that all the time :)

evenstar
26-06-2007, 08:43 PM
I cannot believe this game is available. Incredible. Thank you so much to whoever uploaded this. It's one of, if not the best game I have ever played. Fantastic levels, difficult challenges, great graphics, replayability, etc.

One of the best games from my youth. I still get chills when I remember 3rd floor of the White Tower. Many memorable levels...

Personally, the only game I would consider superior to this would be Lands of Lore II: Guardians of Destiny. Which has unparalleled adventure, length, difficulty, and music. You are doing yourself a HUGE disservice if you don't play GoD. It's very different from Lands of Lore 1, but it's a 10/10 game.

LONG LIVE WESTWOOD

Prey
27-06-2007, 07:53 PM
Is there any way to get a list of the weapons or the rings so that way you can find out what all of this stuff does, like the bezel ring, and other things that you find or a "shining" star what the difference would be from that and a normal star. Anyway if you could help in any way of how to really id items (maybe the guy in the swamp) or a place to go to found out online or something

The Fifth Horseman
28-06-2007, 01:00 PM
There is a guide on GameFAQs (http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/game/564639.html). It might help you.

evenstar
29-06-2007, 03:20 AM
Is there a way to get rid of that annoying beep everytime i click on an item in my inventory or pick something up off of the ground. It's driving me CRAZY.

Awesome game!

Guest
29-06-2007, 09:13 PM
Trying to get this game running on Windows XP, I know generally you need a DOS box set up to run these but seeing as I completely suck at any type of programming i've been going into properties and changing memory settings and the exit on opening box to play my DOS games getting from here.

Thing is with this... The game comes up and I get to the point where can select one of the four characters to play, but when I select one of them, and confirm to use that character, (I assume supposed to) it fades away into black, while i'm not thinking this is the mistake... the black screen doesn't go away, no sounds (which not surprised by, have never had sound on any DOS games i've played) but what really gets me is why nothing comes up after this... If anyone could help me out here would be appreciated.

Guest
30-06-2007, 01:10 AM
Last post was my own, follow here on something else I noticed.

After re-reading the review of the game I also noticed I never saw the intro movie, but only the 'Virgin games/Westood' symbols, and then taken straight to the character selection screen, there after game goes black and does not respond.

_r.u.s.s.
30-06-2007, 11:53 AM
try putting higher cycles (ctrl+f12), low cycles can make a game freeze.
if it didnt help try setting core=dynamic in your dosbox.cfg

Guest
30-06-2007, 04:56 PM
Tried the ctrl=f12 and didn't make any diffrence that I noticed... idk enough (anything) about DOS to make the change you mentioned their. Also letting the opening movie play through now all the sounds are comming through as static... Closest thing could describe it as is stirufoam being shreaded over concrete... so yeah, little annoying their.

Is there anything else w/o using DOS I could do to get this to work? If not could someone show me a link to where would show step for step how to get a game to work in DOS?

_r.u.s.s.
30-06-2007, 09:09 PM
your dosbox.conf is in the directory where you installed dosbox. so open it, search for core and set dynamic.

and if you wanted to increase cycles btw, not just once. you need to press it more times to get your processor higher (but dont over-cycle it cause it will be choppy) just.. set the dynamic

and also, did you run setup.exe and set your card to soundblaster before?

Guest
30-06-2007, 11:25 PM
Maybe should be a little more clear....

I have no idea what you are talking about with the tech specs... :(
I am not running the game on DOSbox, I don't know how to use dosbox so i'm really not following what you mean by "so open it, search for core and set dynamic".

Have been playing DOS games using windows XP by doing what I saw listed on another site saying to change the properties of the exe file in the game.

Mentioning the soundblaster, not really sure how I would go about that... Sry if i'm just being annoying here, but as you probaly figured out already i'm not to sharp with computers.

_r.u.s.s.
01-07-2007, 11:19 AM
well, if you want to get the game running, use need to use dosbox :)
XP compatibility modes dont always work. so dl it, and give it a try, its realy easy. there are also few tutorials on the site. good luck

edit: or you could try vdm sound but im not sure whether it will work or not

Guest
01-07-2007, 02:41 PM
Well i'll give it a try, actually gonna be taking a class on this stuff in a few months but until then I really am lost... either way not gonna get this working without it I guess.

_r.u.s.s.
01-07-2007, 04:06 PM
its seriously easy. look, idiot like me made it without classes :D ..even without tutorials

so if you check some of them, there is no way in hell you are not gonna do it

look in here (http://www.abandonia.com/main.php?nav=index&FAQ=1)
or one of our members wrote this (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14913) , but that one is lil'bit too long and exaggerated in my opinion

Guest
01-07-2007, 07:12 PM
If your a idiot what am I? LOL... following the instructions in the first link you gave I am now formatting DOS to follow the C: drive, but even after copying what it says to and pasting on bottom of page, saving even, directing it to C:, DOS still comes up on the Z drive... Same problem I had last time I followed this. I noticed though the download I have is 7.0, and in the directions it uses 6.3, any significance?

Guest
01-07-2007, 07:14 PM
er... meant in directions its .63, and I downloaded .70 for windows.

_r.u.s.s.
01-07-2007, 07:29 PM
now after you mounted your drive, you need to get in to it. so type in "C:" and you will be in C drive. (if you mounted d, type d..) and to move in folders type "CD <folder name>"

Guest
01-07-2007, 07:44 PM
I did everything step for step as instructed and it still doesn't recognize C drive... Says directory doesn't exist...

...I hate computers.

Undertaker
01-07-2007, 07:47 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Reanimator @ May 2 2007, 05:30 PM) 289070</div>
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I think YOU'd have to see it... :w00t:
[/b]

WOW! Do you happen to have a beta version or something? :blink:

_r.u.s.s.
01-07-2007, 07:52 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 1 2007, 09:44 PM) 297485</div>
I did everything step for step as instructed and it still doesn't recognize C drive... Says directory doesn't exist...

...I hate computers.
[/b]
maybe you used wrong commands? where is the game located on your hard drive? i will tell you exactly what do you have to type

Guest
01-07-2007, 09:21 PM
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Lands of Lore

Is the address, have it unzipped already.. not sure why there are spaces in it though.

_r.u.s.s.
01-07-2007, 10:38 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 1 2007, 11:21 PM) 297502</div>
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Lands of Lore

Is the address, have it unzipped already.. not sure why there are spaces in it though.
[/b]

->mount c c:\docume~1\user\desktop\landso~1
->c:
->setup.exe; choose soundblaster
->lands.exe
dont forget to ->toilet sometimes :D

Guest
01-07-2007, 11:13 PM
Ok... at this point either i'm a complete idiot or the program isn't working right...

I type in exactly as follows:
mount c c:\docume~1\user\desktop\landso~1

and what results is:
Directory c:\docume~1\user\desktop\landso~1 doesn't exist.

Z:\>



am I doing something (else) wrong still?

Scatty
02-07-2007, 03:32 AM
Just create a folder with ONLY 8 letters, like landslore, place the game in it, mount the folder and play the game. If you're operating in DosBox with a folder that has more than 8 letters, you can see only 6 letters of it, following with ~ and a number, but the number is always different. So it's better to use folders with only 8 letters for games that are to be played in DosBox.

Guest
02-07-2007, 04:03 AM
Ok I am half way following what you mean... I made a folder in my documents titling it LandLore, and copied all the game files into that file, now though i'm still not sure how to use DOS to get this to work. I'm typing in:
C C:\LandLore

But nothing happens other than the same msg I have been getting this entire time.... it doesn't exist.

Scatty
02-07-2007, 08:45 AM
If you mean DosBox, and not Dos, then:

mount c c:\landlore
c:
lands.exe (or lolcd.exe with CD version of the game)

_r.u.s.s.
02-07-2007, 10:36 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 2 2007, 01:13 AM) 297511</div>
Ok... at this point either i'm a complete idiot or the program isn't working right...

I type in exactly as follows:
mount c c:\docume~1\user\desktop\landso~1

and what results is:
Directory c:\docume~1\user\desktop\landso~1 doesn't exist.

Z:\>



am I doing something (else) wrong still?
[/b]
wops, i meant to type "Owner" instead of "user" sry=]

The Fifth Horseman
02-07-2007, 01:39 PM
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Lands of Lore[/b]
mount C "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Lands of Lore"
Ok I am half way following what you mean... I made a folder in my documents titling it LandLore, and copied all the game files into that file, now though i'm still not sure how to use DOS to get this to work. I'm typing in:
C C:\LandLore

But nothing happens other than the same msg I have been getting this entire time.... it doesn't exist.[/b]
mount C "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\LandLore"

The path you must give the mount command to use needs to be a real path to a directory on your hard drive.
"My Documents" is not equivalent to your C drive.

Guest
02-07-2007, 03:20 PM
Ok I tried changing user to owner and nothing changed, and i'm not tech savvy enough to know what your talking about, horseman. But if its the C drive its supposed to be reading, even if it says its reading off that in the status window, why in the actual input window does it say: "Z:\>"?

_r.u.s.s.
02-07-2007, 03:40 PM
you need to type C: and press enter to get in to the drive

Guest
02-07-2007, 03:50 PM
It's working :)

Seriously thanks for all the help guys, no way w/ how inept I am w/ computers would I have figured this all out on my own.

The Fifth Horseman
02-07-2007, 03:56 PM
Ok I tried changing user to owner and nothing changed, and i'm not tech savvy enough to know what your talking about, horseman.[/b]
Did you include the quotation marks (")? They _do_ matter.

Path = the adress where the file or directory is located on your drive. Like C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\Something_or_other.txt

even if it says its reading off that in the status window,[/b]
What exact messages did the status window and the main program window return after you entered the MOUNT command?

Also, if you still have problems with mounting the game directory... well, I suggest you read this part of Beginner's Guide (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14913&st=0&p=293918&#entry293918)

_r.u.s.s.
02-07-2007, 04:49 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 2 2007, 05:50 PM) 297615</div>
It's working :)

Seriously thanks for all the help guys, no way w/ how inept I am w/ computers would I have figured this all out on my own.
[/b]
np :cheers:

Guest
02-07-2007, 08:35 PM
One last question, actually...

Now that i'm playing the game and got the hang of how to get it up/play it. I'm at a point where i'm asked a password which is found in the game manual, I downloaded and looked it up from the site, in the game its something like pg 8 line 3 word 6, i think, but well... only 4 words in the 3rd. If there anywhere I can find the answer to this since it isn't in the game itself? If so, assuming there are others like this, is there anywhere these are given?

_r.u.s.s.
02-07-2007, 11:01 PM
are you sure you are looking on the right page? page number is written always under the page. and titles count as 'rows' too. its always different so you can keep trying

Guest
03-07-2007, 12:15 AM
Eh i'll try it again... thinking all this computer tech stuff fried my brain for the night and I may have missed it, LOL.

Guest
03-07-2007, 03:10 AM
Ok... its not working, the game is asking

"You may find it on page 4, line 4, word 2 of the game manual(Count all lines including titles)"

So I look up the 4th page as titled "page 4" Look below that counting down four lines (tried already sentances and lines alike) and the 2nd word in that sentance, and line (given 3 chances) He killed me.... What am I still doing wrong?

_r.u.s.s.
03-07-2007, 11:30 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 3 2007, 05:10 AM) 297698</div>
"You may find it on page 4, line 4, word 2 of the game manual(Count all lines including titles)"
[/b]
not below, above. the page number is below the page
Adventure screen
Finding your way in the dark
Dungeons and underground caverns are often dark. This can
make exploring tricky. You will want to find a lantern as soon
as possible. Lanterns automatically provide light when you
enter dark areas. As the oil in the lantern is used up, the
lantern will begin to dim. You will need to find oil for you
lantern if it runs low. Left-click on your lantern to see how
much oil remains.

Money purse
Silver crowns are the standard unit of currency in Gladstone.

Page 4
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/b]

Guest
03-07-2007, 02:45 PM
eh... I knew that. LOL.

evenstar
04-07-2007, 02:37 AM
Anyone have a list of every spell in the game? Where can you find Vortex and Mist of Doom?

Zerqent
04-07-2007, 09:49 AM
Spells: Spark - You have it from the start
Heal: Get it from Dawn after returning from Roland
Freeze: Caves at least - prolly several places in Oppinwood/upper Oppinwood as well
Lightning: Can't really remember, but I always get it (Sometime in the Opinwood-Swamp-Urbrish mines area)
Fireball: At least from a desk in Urbrish Mines Co. - Think it's also avaible in upper Oppinwood
Hand of Fate: A house in Yvel, need to tear the boards of the house
Mist of Doom: Catwalk Caverns

Vortex: I have never heard of this:P

evenstar
05-07-2007, 10:54 AM
HELP - ANYONE PLEASE HELP



HELP - ANYONE PLEASE HELP

My idiot friend is in the sub-level of the White Tower. He sold 2 of the items in the "face your greed" room. Stop laughing, it's true. We don't know how to fix it. Are there any items that can be substituted instead?

Replaying the game over again isn't an option. Help needed asap.

Thanks <3

What about undertaker's save game files? Do they still exist?

Grand Dad
05-07-2007, 11:53 AM
Just restore before you did it!

evenstar
05-07-2007, 11:56 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grand Dad @ Jul 5 2007, 12:53 PM) 298007</div>
Just restore before you did it!
[/b]
Foolishly used one save game file only :(

evenstar
05-07-2007, 11:05 PM
Anyone know of a site that has Conrad save games to download?

_r.u.s.s.
07-07-2007, 12:13 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(evenstar @ Jul 5 2007, 01:56 PM) 298008</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grand Dad @ Jul 5 2007, 12:53 PM) 298007
Just restore before you did it!
[/b]
Foolishly used one save game file only :(
[/b][/quote]
well.. i am in mines if you wish

_r.u.s.s.
09-07-2007, 08:37 PM
how is this possible
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3747/loredg9.jpg

there is no page 19 in the uploaded manual

edit: oh, nevermind. i found that the maunual isnt book of lore, somebody mentioned it before

Guest_h4m3d0_*
12-07-2007, 06:15 AM
I also have the CD version and I love this game, have for years.


Hey undertaker, you seem to know a lot about this game. I did some testing using michaels magic and no doubt it is more powerful (than A'kshel for the purposes of this test)...

However, I did some testing and I find that A'kshel recovers mana at a faster rate, whether this is due to having a higher total mana or not I'm not sure. With some simple tests I find it takes A'kshel (with a total of 32 mana in this instance) about 10.3-10.4 seconds to regen to full (from 2 mana(level 4 spark cast and then a level 1)). Michael with a total of 25 mana takes around 11.4-11.5 seconds to regen to full. That means A'kshel is about 10% faster when he regening mana than michael, and michael had 5 less mana to recover. (i started resting when A'kshel was down to 2 mana)

Even if this is soley based upon max mana, A'kshel will always have the highest mana of any caster. I just think its a benefit no one had mentioned in so far as I could see. In aggregate, higher mana regen is a big advantage for any caster type.

:-) man i love this game :-)

Undertaker
12-07-2007, 01:47 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest_h4m3d0_* @ Jul 12 2007, 06:15 AM) 299050</div>
I also have the CD version and I love this game, have for years.


Hey undertaker, you seem to know a lot about this game. I did some testing using michaels magic and no doubt it is more powerful (than A'kshel for the purposes of this test)...

However, I did some testing and I find that A'kshel recovers mana at a faster rate, whether this is due to having a higher total mana or not I'm not sure. With some simple tests I find it takes A'kshel (with a total of 32 mana in this instance) about 10.3-10.4 seconds to regen to full (from 2 mana(level 4 spark cast and then a level 1)). Michael with a total of 25 mana takes around 11.4-11.5 seconds to regen to full. That means A'kshel is about 10% faster when he regening mana than michael, and michael had 5 less mana to recover. (i started resting when A'kshel was down to 2 mana)

Even if this is soley based upon max mana, A'kshel will always have the highest mana of any caster. I just think its a benefit no one had mentioned in so far as I could see. In aggregate, higher mana regen is a big advantage for any caster type.

:-) man i love this game :-)
[/b]

I didn't know that he recovers his magic faster, thanks! Too bad it's not really that much compared to the others. His magic also will always be weaker than that of anyone else, except for Kieran's. Too bad Westwood didn't change that.

On a little side note, Ak'shel starts out with the most hp and mp of anyone else. Just thought I'd throw that fact in.

Guest_h4m3d0_*
12-07-2007, 05:05 PM
I recently picked up land sof lore II: guardians of destiny but I'm having some probs installing it through dosbox. I know this is a little off topic but it keeps saying i only have 110 MB of free space on my HD when I really have over 5 gigs. The game requires about 200 megs, so clearly there is an issue here. What gives? Anyone know? Is this a problem because im trying to install through dosbox?

Actually I employed the strategy you were talking about, saving before each magic level up to ensure I get the full 37 MP every level and its really adding up! I just left the draracles caves and i'm almost level 5 mage! thats like 180 mana! I think casting low level higher end spells instead of high level spark is a great strategy for Ak'shel. Spamming level 2 fireball rocks! :-) I couldnt use Michael as a mage character, it feels like it takes FOREVER for his mana to fill back up hehehe :whistling:

Guest_h4m3d0_*
13-07-2007, 02:46 AM
Just curious, has anyone compared the damages between spells other than spark for different characters? Everything ive seen referenced referred only to that one spell.

The Fifth Horseman
13-07-2007, 12:25 PM
The game requires about 200 megs, so clearly there is an issue here. What gives? Anyone know? Is this a problem because im trying to install through dosbox?[/b]
When installing the C mount in DOSBox, add -freesize 750 parameter on the end. It will report 750 MB of free HDD space when any program will query about it.

Guest_h4m3d0_*
13-07-2007, 07:01 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Jul 13 2007, 01:25 PM) 299249</div>
When installing the C mount in DOSBox, add -freesize 750 parameter on the end. It will report 750 MB of free HDD space when any program will query about it.
[/b]


Awesome! thank you so much! :brain:

I knew there had to be a way to allocate more space! :ph34r:

The Fifth Horseman
16-07-2007, 08:39 AM
Actually, it's not about allocating more but about faking less free space than there actually is.

halocrime
16-07-2007, 06:20 PM
This forum is a godsend. I've recently rediscovered LOL and am almost to the end of the game. Playing it has brought back such memories! The puzzling Urbish Mines, the nightmare that is level 3 of the White Tower...I can't get over what a great, challenging, fun, and exciting game this was (and still is!).

One thing I've never understood, though, is that black serpent thing on level 3 of the White Tower. Does that thing just appear randomly, or is there a rhyme or reason to its appearance and attacks? Is there any good defense against it? The ghosts were annoying enough -- even with two Emerald Blades -- but I don't think I could have made it through this time around without the smackdown power of Vaelan's Cube to kill the ghosts, coupled with using it to constantly refresh my MP to cast heal spells for everyone injured by that damned snake. Anyone who does level 3 without the Cube has my admiration.

Anyway, just wondered if there was more to that snake thing than its seemingly random attacks.

Undertaker
16-07-2007, 08:58 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(halocrime @ Jul 16 2007, 06:20 PM) 299718</div>
This forum is a godsend. I've recently rediscovered LOL and am almost to the end of the game. Playing it has brought back such memories! The puzzling Urbish Mines, the nightmare that is level 3 of the White Tower...I can't get over what a great, challenging, fun, and exciting game this was (and still is!).

One thing I've never understood, though, is that black serpent thing on level 3 of the White Tower. Does that thing just appear randomly, or is there a rhyme or reason to its appearance and attacks? Is there any good defense against it? The ghosts were annoying enough -- even with two Emerald Blades -- but I don't think I could have made it through this time around without the smackdown power of Vaelan's Cube to kill the ghosts, coupled with using it to constantly refresh my MP to cast heal spells for everyone injured by that damned snake. Anyone who does level 3 without the Cube has my admiration.

Anyway, just wondered if there was more to that snake thing than its seemingly random attacks.
[/b]

The Dreamsnake is a spell cast by the Wraiths. There is no (known) way to protect yourself from it.

Level 3 isn't so hard if you move around smartly (is that even a word? :blink: ): try not to fight them directly, but step to your left or right and then backwards, so that the spirits will have to move forward towards you and can't fire their annoying fireballs while doing so. While they're moving, you can get free hits in.

Hope it helps. :ok:

Guest_h4m3d0_*
19-07-2007, 02:28 AM
Recently discovered the cool 60 crowns for any item trick in the swamps. That combined with the ability to purchase fireball wands for 300..... 5 rocks/sticks/shirts/sandals/aloe and a fireball wand? very nice :-) My magic is almost level 8 and i'm on level 1 of the white tower! I wonder how this would work using michael due to his higher magic damage... scary ;-) (using ak'shel currently)

humorguy
19-07-2007, 06:46 AM
I have just read message after message of DOSBox gobbledook, giving a newbie (and why he didn't register I don't know!) info on how to set up the game in DOSBox, why don't all you hardcore gamers also point out a very easy to use front end for DOSBox called 'D-FEND'?! It avoids all that crazy DOSBox stuff and alos, using profiles in D-Fend, it means once the game is working you just have to double click the game name in the profile list to start the game, you don't have to set up DOSBox all over again or mess around with the DOSbox configuration file!

SO when recommending DOSBOx to a newbie, do yourself and them a favour and tell them to download D-Fend too - it'll save 30+ posts to explain how to get abandonware games working in DOSBox only! :)

_r.u.s.s.
19-07-2007, 10:04 AM
you know, d-fend use to be kinda buggy and sometimes have issues with the games, which dosbox doesnt have. you can save yourself 30 points of explaining how to work with dosbox, but you can also make 50 points of messing with buggy d-fend

IcomeAnon
22-07-2007, 06:26 PM
This was the first game I ever had when we first had a home PC. I was so happy when i found this site had a DL for it. But it freezes right after the part where you select your hero. Any advice? I would appreciate it. Thanks.

Guest
22-07-2007, 06:58 PM
R.u.s.s. - I have over 50 game profiles in my D-Fend and all are okay. never had a problem with D-fend itself. Sometime I have resorted to trying DOSBox direct to see if it's a version problem, as some games work better in 0.70 and some in 0.63, etc.

If you do have a problem with one in fifty then I would say it would still be beneficial to tell people about D-Fend, for that 1 in 50 problem you are saving 49 in 50 problems, and it's still surely the best thing to advise as a first step rather than trying to explain the much harder DOSBox?! (After all, if DOSBox was 'easy' there wouldn't be front ends to make it 'easy' would there?)

So I still say a) D-Fend is not buggy (and it seems like you haven't used it much, so how would you know?), b) it will work most of the time so is better to try first if you have no DOSBox experience, and c) it's a darn sight easier to explain how to use than DOSBox, assuming you have used neither, so would still save a lot of Abandonia server space by not have dozens of 50 page threads where half of them are explaining how to use DOSBox for any given game!

_r.u.s.s.
22-07-2007, 07:01 PM
if you have a vacation for year or two you can browse our archives and see all the 'help me this is not running' posts while users were using d-fend=)
and no, i didnt use d-fend much

Jan
25-07-2007, 12:55 PM
Hi
Does anyone know, how to get into Catwalk caverns level 2? there is only a teleport to level 1, and a door with button, but it won't open...

12turtle12
25-07-2007, 02:07 PM
I much prefer Dosbox to D-fend - after the initial confusing start-up w/ dosbox when you program
it to not default to "Z" drive or whatever, it's pretty simple. LOL worked fine for me in Dosbox - and to the post before this one, google lands of lore walkthrough - you'll find all the answers you need.

humorguy
25-07-2007, 06:28 PM
Fine for one game and one configuration Caz - but what about when you have a dozen or more DOS games your flipping between? Or even just 3 or 4. Want to re-configure Dosbox for each game each time? Or just set up eachj game in D-Fend and then just double click on the game you want? Any time I want to play one of my DOS games, all I have to do is go into the genre (because you can define the games by genre as well as put specific info like cheats etc for that game!) then double click on the game I want and voila, all the setting up to make that one game play the best it can within dosbox is handled by D-fend. Personally, I couldn't live without it.

12turtle12
25-07-2007, 06:44 PM
No problem there, I just don't mind typing a few lines of DOS code to get a game running, plus somewhere
I read you shouldn't have more than X amount of games in the game folder, but I throw all sorts of crap in there, and I haven't had a problem. If you like D-fend more power to you, but DOSbox works just fine for me w/ all the games except one that I've gotten off this particular site, plus a few more I've picked up from various sources.

The Fifth Horseman
26-07-2007, 09:53 AM
Fine for one game and one configuration Caz - but what about when you have a dozen or more DOS games your flipping between? Or even just 3 or 4. Want to re-configure Dosbox for each game each time?[/b]
Every game I play often, I create a tailored config and shortcut for.

If you really want to use a frontend, try DBGL.

plus somewhere
I read you shouldn't have more than X amount of games in the game folder, but I throw all sorts of crap in there, and I haven't had a problem[/b]
Same here.

Guest
03-08-2007, 09:55 AM
how can i get pass password in lands of lore throne of chaos.

anyone have the complete game with crack?

Thanks

_r.u.s.s.
03-08-2007, 03:38 PM
there s a manual..

Guest_Gregor_*
08-08-2007, 12:24 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(_r.u.s.s. @ Aug 3 2007, 04:38 PM) 302626</div>
there s a manual..
[/b]

And may I be so fortunate to ask where "that" manual is, that contains the password for the guard, in the kings palace? I certainly can find no hints about that in the manual that can be downoaded where the game can.

Thank you for your help, in advance.

Mighty Midget
08-08-2007, 12:29 PM
Try this
http://www.replacementdocs.com/search.php?...loads&adv=0 (http://www.replacementdocs.com/search.php?q=Lands+Of+Lore&r=0&s=Search&in=&ex=&ep=&be=&t=downloads&adv=0)

_r.u.s.s.
08-08-2007, 12:31 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest_Gregor_* @ Aug 8 2007, 02:24 PM) 303598</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(_r.u.s.s. @ Aug 3 2007, 04:38 PM) 302626
there s a manual..
[/b]

And may I be so fortunate to ask where "that" manual is, that contains the password for the guard, in the kings palace? I certainly can find no hints about that in the manual that can be downoaded where the game can.

Thank you for your help, in advance.
[/b][/quote]
like, on the main download page (http://www.abandonia.com/games/466/Lands_of_Lore/Lands_of_Lore.htm)? o_O

Mighty Midget
08-08-2007, 12:33 PM
Hmm I think he mentioned he couldn't find what he needed there :whistling:

_r.u.s.s.
08-08-2007, 12:38 PM
i have finished the game and it has all you need :P and its only re-written duplicate of the one from the replacement docs. other guy few posts above had same problem when he read it wrong way. but if somebody is that ignorant not to even check the topic he doesnt deserve a normal answer

skaven510
08-08-2007, 03:22 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(humorguy @ Jul 25 2007, 06:28 PM) 301357</div>
Fine for one game and one configuration Caz - but what about when you have a dozen or more DOS games your flipping between? Or even just 3 or 4. Want to re-configure Dosbox for each game each time? Or just set up eachj game in D-Fend and then just double click on the game you want? Any time I want to play one of my DOS games, all I have to do is go into the genre (because you can define the games by genre as well as put specific info like cheats etc for that game!) then double click on the game I want and voila, all the setting up to make that one game play the best it can within dosbox is handled by D-fend. Personally, I couldn't live without it.
[/b]

I've been using dosbox for awhile now and I don't have to reconfigure it everytime I want to play a game. Just mount C: and choose which one I want to play from my hardrive and voila your playing :) I guess if you don't like the DOS environment then D-fend would be preferable but I never minded dos and found it easier to deal with sometimes than windows.

The only thing you sometimes have to configure is the IRQ for soundblaster in the setup program but I'm pretty sure you would need to do that with D-fend too.

Guest
08-08-2007, 05:21 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Aug 8 2007, 01:33 PM) 303603</div>
Hmm I think he mentioned he couldn't find what he needed there :whistling:
[/b]

Your help is very much appreciated, 'Mighty Midget'. :ok:

I was a bit slow to realise how exacty that password business worked, I hought there was a separate code page I did not find in the manual, with "pages and lines" as numerical answer codes. Looks like I overcombined somewhat. No wonder that I did not find any inside the material on the game download page ^_^

humorguy
08-08-2007, 05:23 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(skaven510 @ Aug 8 2007, 04:22 PM) 303639</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(humorguy @ Jul 25 2007, 06:28 PM) 301357
Fine for one game and one configuration Caz - but what about when you have a dozen or more DOS games your flipping between? Or even just 3 or 4. Want to re-configure Dosbox for each game each time? Or just set up eachj game in D-Fend and then just double click on the game you want? Any time I want to play one of my DOS games, all I have to do is go into the genre (because you can define the games by genre as well as put specific info like cheats etc for that game!) then double click on the game I want and voila, all the setting up to make that one game play the best it can within dosbox is handled by D-fend. Personally, I couldn't live without it.
[/b]

I've been using dosbox for awhile now and I don't have to reconfigure it everytime I want to play a game. Just mount C: and choose which one I want to play from my hardrive and voila your playing :) I guess if you don't like the DOS environment then D-fend would be preferable but I never minded dos and found it easier to deal with sometimes than windows.

The only thing you sometimes have to configure is the IRQ for soundblaster in the setup program but I'm pretty sure you would need to do that with D-fend too.
[/b][/quote]

Noticed I said if you had many games... One of course is easy, but everyone knows different games need different DOSBox configurations, D-Fends makes profiles that rememer those configs, you play one game that needs one config, then anothr that needs another different config to work and of course you have to set it up in dosbox but you don't have to because in D-Fend it remembers it. Double clicking on a game title and having it open so I can play it in as perfect a way as I can get it is a lot easier than opening DOSBox, configuring it for the particular game you're going to play and then playing the game.

And please, I was saying that it was be easier to tell a newbie to tell them to get D-Fend than it would be to teach them though these threads how to configure DOSBox, and I still stand by that entirely.

skaven510
09-08-2007, 06:34 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(humorguy @ Aug 8 2007, 05:23 PM) 303665</div>
Noticed I said if you had many games... One of course is easy, but everyone knows different games need different DOSBox configurations, D-Fends makes profiles that rememer those configs, you play one game that needs one config, then anothr that needs another different config to work and of course you have to set it up in dosbox but you don't have to because in D-Fend it remembers it. Double clicking on a game title and having it open so I can play it in as perfect a way as I can get it is a lot easier than opening DOSBox, configuring it for the particular game you're going to play and then playing the game.

And please, I was saying that it was be easier to tell a newbie to tell them to get D-Fend than it would be to teach them though these threads how to configure DOSBox, and I still stand by that entirely.
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I've never actually used D-Fend so I can see your point about it being easier to just double click an icon once you've set it up to teach newbies the easiest way to play the games, but what do you mean different games need different Dosbox configs? The only thing I normally have to do once I start a game is pump up the speed or lower it according to how old it is. I've never had to change anything else but that. I may have been extremely lucky but I've played a lot of older games like really old games like Pool of Radience to not as old like this one Lands of Lore and never had a problem. Like I said though I've probably been really lucky with the games I've chosen to replay. Anyways thanks for letting me know about D-Fend if I ever run across a game I'm having problems playing I'll give it a try.

humorguy
09-08-2007, 06:46 AM
Skaven if you play only one type of game from the same time period, you may be okay. But even there, with D-Fend, it is so easy to play around with sound and graphics and cycles, etc, that I think in some ways with D-Fend I am getting a better result than someone just setting up DOSBox. And again I would point out trying to tell a newbie how to configure sound and graphics and cycles and sometimes even more is going to be a heck of a job in a thread than explaining how to do the same things in D-Fend or other front end.

I play DOS games from the 1980's to the mid to late 90's, I play strategy and RPG and shooter games, I find that very few of my games have identical setups, but I agree, I do have some where only the cycles are different, so I agree with you there!

I started with DOSBox, and I have moved to using a front end because it is a 1000% easier, if it easier to use, it's got to be easier to tell a newbie to get it and use it in my mind, as I believe he is much more likely to be successful and then become a fully fledged retro gamer. I can well believe a newbie that has too much grief will be switched of retro gaming and may move away, that would be to the detriment of him, us and this website! So I say recommend D-Fend as often as possible. It just makes perfect sense to me.

skaven510
09-08-2007, 07:03 AM
Okay you've convinced me to give it a try :) It's funny how attached people or least I do to certain ways of doing things and hate it when someone offers a different idea. Heck Dosbox first allowed me to finally get Ultima Savage Empire working (with Sound) after years of having to switch our hard drives with different operating systems to play different games, also the slowdown method dosbox used was a heck of a lot better than moslo or CPUkiller. I can't even switch out hard drives anymore due to the Duel processors (Windows 98 doesn't like them) So I use Virtual PC for windows games and Dosbox for Dos. Anyways point is Sorry about the snippy remark about the whole Dos thing and I'll give D-fend a look.

Never get started talking about Fallout you become really cranky afterwords :titan:

The Fifth Horseman
09-08-2007, 02:43 PM
One thing I can tell you about D-Fend: Don't bother.
It's known to cause compatibility problems with games that would otherwise work perfectly in DOSBox.
I suggest either that you use DBGL or go the way I did - creating customized configs and shortcuts to run DOSBox with the given config. It's quite easy, and gets the "click icon to run the game" result.

halocrime
11-08-2007, 04:57 AM
Okay, please tell me there is a stupid herb in Cimmeria somwhere...I got to the place where you have to leave armor, medicine, jewelry, and a weapon, and of course I don't have any herbs. And stupidly, I left my Jade Necklace in the jewelry spot, then went galavanting around to the treasure chests to see if they contain a herb...but of course, I'm only a level 4 Rogue without the necklace and can't pick the damned locks! And when I went back to where I left the Jade Necklace, it's gone...

So...is there any hope? I suppose I could run around with a crossbow and shoot those green frog-looking things in an attempt to gain a Rogue level and to try to pick the locks...but does anyone happen to know if there's an herb stored in the castle somewhere?

_r.u.s.s.
11-08-2007, 11:28 AM
there will be a crossbow (or dagger?) which increases your rogue skill. but btw, if you keep clicking lockpicks on a chest over and over like your mouse was on fire, after while it always worked for me:D

Guest
19-08-2007, 06:10 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(halocrime @ Aug 11 2007, 05:57 AM) 304175</div>
Okay, please tell me there is a stupid herb in Cimmeria somwhere...I got to the place where you have to leave armor, medicine, jewelry, and a weapon, and of course I don't have any herbs. And stupidly, I left my Jade Necklace in the jewelry spot, then went galavanting around to the treasure chests to see if they contain a herb...but of course, I'm only a level 4 Rogue without the necklace and can't pick the damned locks! And when I went back to where I left the Jade Necklace, it's gone...

So...is there any hope? I suppose I could run around with a crossbow and shoot those green frog-looking things in an attempt to gain a Rogue level and to try to pick the locks...but does anyone happen to know if there's an herb stored in the castle somewhere?
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Remember that Bezel Cups counts as 'Medicine' as well.

To raise your Rogue level, I'd go back to the Urbish Mining co. and go to the pumping machine. Now, face north, get Crossbow 'Valkyrie' (and an additional one in case of Baccata, of course) and weigh down F1 (for your main character), F2 (for Baccata) or F3 (for Paulson), depending on whose Rogue level you wish to increase. In the mean while you can do something else.

If I recall correctly, there should be some herbs in a chest (you need Rogue level 7 to open this one, so you most likely miss this one) on Castle Cimmeria level 2.

Hope it helps...

zoog
20-08-2007, 02:18 AM
Hi people
I have a problem playing Conrad with Baccata & Paulson. Those guys upgrading for level or two while Conrad's statistics almost freezes - all because in action he used to miss 2,3 or even 4 times for 1 hit while Baccata&Paulson miss about half of tries. So he can't hit enemy - others already killed everyone. Is it ok? His might/protection is 88/138, B&P -- 88/87 & 52/91. Any suggestions, except that i'm a loser?

Tito
20-08-2007, 12:37 PM
Well, you can always try to specialize him in magic. That will become handy by the end of the game.

zoog
21-08-2007, 12:03 AM
already did the game, fought with Conrad only for uplevel whenever possible

Lajos Arpad
01-09-2007, 03:49 PM
Does anybody know the passwords for lands of lore: the throne of chaos? I can't get to the palace. Please help.

_r.u.s.s.
01-09-2007, 03:56 PM
read the earlier posts please

Lajos Arpad
01-09-2007, 04:29 PM
I've read them, but they don't help. Only the 1 3 4 occured, but sentient was not the password. I've tried hundreds of times now. Can anyone write further codes?

_r.u.s.s.
01-09-2007, 04:33 PM
i can copy it from the one of the older posts o_O
page line word firstletter
1 2 2 s
1 3 4 s
4 3 3 m
5 2 5 p
5 5 4 d
6 3 4 k
6 4 1 p
7 1 5 h
8 4 1 s
9 3 1 g
10 3 3 t
11 2 5 m
14 1 1 r
14 2 1 s
14 2 1 s
15 4 2 g
16 2 1 l
16 3 3 c

are you sure you typed in S and not sentinent?

Lajos Arpad
01-09-2007, 04:37 PM
This is christian IV's post, but none of these occured, only the 1 3 4 sentient, but sentient was not the password in that case. Anyway, thank you for the answers.

_r.u.s.s.
01-09-2007, 04:41 PM
well, referring to game manual (http://www.abandonia.com/extras/Lands%20of%20Lore_Manual.doc) (not book of lore, i dont know in which part of copy protection you are, cause there are 2 kinds), page 1, line 3, word 4 is "portrait", not sentinent

Lajos Arpad
01-09-2007, 04:49 PM
That solved the problem. Thank you.

Guest
04-09-2007, 09:09 AM
hi guys, i m a great lover of LOL 1, i have played LOL3 as well but somehow LOL2 escaped through the cracks. Is there anyway to find it again? I tried ordering from amazon but it cant ship to my place as i reside in singapore,asia. Any help is much appreciated, thanks.

LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS! WESTWOOD! :titan:

Mighty Midget
04-09-2007, 09:13 AM
God bless the smiley shortcuts :hysterical:

Scatty
04-09-2007, 09:15 AM
Someone responsible should replace the code for LOL smiley, funny that no one ever bothered before yet...

Guest
07-09-2007, 03:03 AM
I Love the game but I would like to know the password for the first castle, my computer wont let me look at the manual for some reason

Draygin30
07-09-2007, 04:25 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lajos Arpad @ Sep 1 2007, 08:49 AM) 308195</div>
Does anybody know the passwords for lands of lore: the throne of chaos? I can't get to the palace. Please help.
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You have to get a copy of the game manual. which cane be downloaded on several sites...including this one
later on you will need a second book near the end of the ivory tower level...the book of lore which i can't find online anywhere.(IF ANY ONE KNOWS A SITE WHERE IT IS PLEASE POST IT)...however in an earlier post i found some excerpt from it ...here they are....
page line word
1 2 2 state
1 3 4 sentient
4 3 3 maintain
5 2 5 pride
5 5 4 dies
6 3 4 known
6 4 1 powers
7 1 5 heretics
8 4 1 spanned
9 3 1 golden
10 3 3 twice
11 2 5 muck
14 1 1 r --> magic (first letter is wrong)
14 2 1 spellbook
15 4 2 generations
16 2 1 located
16 3 3 course


you may have to save and reload several time right before you get to the old woman who has the cricible of faith till you get the right password....
if you still cant find the manual....ifound it by searching www.dogpile.com search lands of lore manual


hope that helps :titan:

Lajos Arpad
10-09-2007, 02:07 PM
I took the silver key before freeing Richard and picked almost all the chests on level III of castle Crimea. Now i can't find the gold key on level III. I've searched for it, but after a while i started to search walkthroughs for the answer, and i've seen these:
UHS: "The gold key is in a room in the NW corner of the level. There's no trick to getting it -- just open the door, and take it."
thecomputershow:"Go through the secret wall to the chest at (2). Open it with the lock picks. Open the niche at (3) and take the gold key."
So, UHS says i must go through a door and i will get the key, while thecomputershow says i should go through a secret wall, take the content of a chest, open a niche, and take the key.
I've been to the door on the NW, and i found nothing. I haven't seen a niche through the secret wall, and nothing i could open it with. I even looked in the chest once more, but nothing. Does anyone know the solution to my problem? Please let me know.
I've also seen a chest on level 2 in an (un)locked room. I've tried to pick the lock of the room, but after hundreds of tries i decided to search for the key. I found the key to that room, and, as i said earlier, i found a chest in that small room. I've tried to pick it thousands of times, but every time i tried to pick it, i failed. My characters have high rogue skills:
Conrad: 5
Baccata: 5
Paulson: 4
So i don't understand why is it impossible to pick that chest.
Does anybody know a method to open the chest?
Thank you for the answers.

Scatty
12-09-2007, 02:25 AM
I think you would need a rogue skill of 6 for that.

IrMel
19-10-2007, 10:54 PM
There was this question before, but no one could answer. So I hope someone can now:

After going to the draracle, I met Lora, so she followed me everywhere. Now in the Mines (Level 4) there is Paulson who should join my groupe, but there is me, baccatha and Lora, so there's no place.
When I leave the room with Paulson inside, the game crushes.

So is there any possibility to kick Lora from my groupe? I can't get to the draracle anymore and I don't want to neither. :sos:

narkooegle
21-10-2007, 06:18 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IrMel @ Oct 19 2007, 10:54 PM) 316756</div>
There was this question before, but no one could answer. So I hope someone can now:

After going to the draracle, I met Lora, so she followed me everywhere. Now in the Mines (Level 4) there is Paulson who should join my groupe, but there is me, baccatha and Lora, so there's no place.
When I leave the room with Paulson inside, the game crushes.

So is there any possibility to kick Lora from my groupe? I can't get to the draracle anymore and I don't want to neither. :sos:
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WOW... you have Lora in your group!
That is very interresting! That shoulden have happended. Lora should have stayed with the draracle!

That is an interesting game you have! i never heard of that, maybe you should save your game, and share it with many people..


but as i said: Lora should have stayed with the draracle, when you gave the draracle an offering (the jeweled dagger or the silver cup), and then you should get a prophesy on how to cure King Richard, and then afterwards Lora should have stayed with the draracle.
I hope this would help you :ok:

Shrek
22-10-2007, 11:22 AM
That has been mentioned before in this thread (I think).

The question is, you've done the sequence wrong: first you save Lora and she will follow you; then you visit the draracle and she'll stay there.
After you visit the draracle, there's no way you can return there, so you're stuck.
When that happens, you better not save Lora, or you won't be able to get rid of her - you have to know where you pick her, so you skip that, but if you know where she is, then the best thing to do is to get her first, while you explore the dungeons, she might be useful sometimes.

Guest
27-10-2007, 10:57 PM
okay, but is there no cheat or something else to eject lora from my group? i dont want to restart the game...

narkooegle
28-10-2007, 02:06 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 27 2007, 10:57 PM) 317500</div>
okay, but is there no cheat or something else to eject lora from my group? i dont want to restart the game...
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Dont you have a save-game in the draracle-caves?

Capo
01-11-2007, 10:49 PM
I have a question? All the bow and the crossbow in the game seems to make all the same damage,how can i understand wich is the better bow/crossbow ?

Scatty
01-11-2007, 11:14 PM
No, some crossbows make more damage than others. Generally one of the options you can stick with, to understand which one is stronger, is the better price you are offered for them. The higher the price, the stronger the crossbow usually is. Use this list to get more info about every item in the game - link (http://ethereallore.envy.nu/1stats.html)

Capo
02-11-2007, 05:20 PM
Thanks for the link!

:ok:

livez
11-01-2008, 09:03 PM
Hello!

When I try to install the game it wants me to insert disk 1. I´m guessing I dont have to copy the files to floppy´s, so how do I get passed this?

edit: nvm this post, that zip was from another site :O. This one worked fine.

Luchsen
11-01-2008, 09:18 PM
How did you get to an install screen? The game is in it's installed condition when you download it here. Execute the LANDS.EXE.

Like I said. :D

stacycarter
17-01-2008, 08:18 PM
has that problem with the copy protection been worked out. I am trying to get back into the castle and it is asking me for the password still.

thegapchasm
21-01-2008, 07:04 AM
you know when you intensively play a game and then hit a bug midway - that sinking feeling...?

my game hangs everytime i go to level 3 of the white tower when i meet that ghost that tells me to leave.
a)can someone tell me how to get round this?
b)or can i send my save files to someone to get past that bit and send the save file back?
c)or can someone send me the save file for past that bit for kieran?

either way if you can help you will be saving my lol gaming career thanks!!

blackboard
21-01-2008, 07:35 AM
a)can someone tell me how to get round this?
b)or can i send my save files to someone to get past that bit and send the save file back?
c)or can someone send me the save file for past that bit for kieran?

hm, I can pass by this point without problems using Dosbox 0.72, so I think it should work. I have no save games for kieran, but if you post your save game somewhere I can try it.

Alternativelly this here http://technfun.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/lands-of-lore-throne-of-chaos/ (second bullet from bottom) tells you how to move your party past this ghost field. But I do not think this is necessary.

thegapchasm
21-01-2008, 08:35 AM
hm, I can pass by this point without problems using Dosbox 0.72, so I think it should work. I have no save games for kieran, but if you post your save game somewhere I can try it.

Alternativelly this here http://technfun.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/lands-of-lore-throne-of-chaos/ (second bullet from bottom) tells you how to move your party past this ghost field. But I do not think this is necessary.

i'm using dosbox 0.72 and this is the first problem i've run into. how do i upload my save files? would a rapidshare/sendspace/mediafire sort of upload work?

what actually happens with that ghost anyway?

blackboard
21-01-2008, 01:35 PM
If you do not have private webspace, something like rapidshare should work (I have not tried it myself, though). It might be easier to just use email, the save games are not that big. I will send you a private message.

The ghost itself does nothing fancy, it only warns you that the level is infested with dangerous ghosts. The warning itself is appropriate, though, the level is very tough.

EDIT: I did not hear from you yet and might be unreachable by mail for a while, perhaps it is better to put it on rapidshare and then put the link in the forum.

thegapchasm
22-01-2008, 09:26 PM
here it is! (http://rapidshare.com/files/85813493/_SAVE006.zip.html)

i had emailed you pretty much immediately but i think something was munted. imagine my relief seeing this edit! woohoo i am quite obsessed

blackboard
22-01-2008, 10:48 PM
here is your new save (http://rapidshare.com/files/85829806/newsave.zip.html)

Worked just fine for me, the ghost gave his speech and I could continue. I only noticed that I had to press Enter instead of clicking on the button.

You will be up for an upleasant surprise, though. I found the ghost level extremely hard. I read that with a cube it is ok, but you apparently used your second one already (as I did). It is possible using the saphire sword, but very frustrating.

thegapchasm
22-01-2008, 11:39 PM
if you don't use your second cube to open the barrier what do you use? also i realised i didn't get the hand of fate spell at yvel so i'm going back to get it. lastly when do you meet the amazon queen because i haven't seen her yet.

thank you!!

blackboard
23-01-2008, 07:03 AM
if you don't use your second cube to open the barrier what do you use?
you must use the cube on the barrier, the only thing is that you can do the tower before destroying the barrier. And thus you can still have your cube. But as I said, you can still pass the ghosts level with the swords, it is just very tough. Unfairly so, in my opinion.

lastly when do you meet the amazon queen because i haven't seen her yet.
You can meet her at the ground level (and you need her key on the ghosts level I think). The prisoner had a ring hidden in his cell (search for a button), put the ring in the niche "ring for admittance".

thegapchasm
23-01-2008, 08:04 AM
yeah i realised, i've done the jana bit etc. and now have proceeded to keep dying on level 3. do you know if the wraiths replicate? or can i kill one and go downstairs to sleep (repeat)?

blackboard
23-01-2008, 03:39 PM
do you know if the wraiths replicate? or can i kill one and go downstairs to sleep (repeat)?
while playing it I had the feeling that they replicated infinitely and fast. Might be just my frustrated feelings, though. I noticed that when I was done with level 3 I hardly met a ghost while passing through it (although a few remained). So either they do not replicate or they do it slowly.

The whole level is a pain. You die constantly, cannot see the ghosts when they are in a wall etc. A walkthrough claimed that you can make it by killing a few ghosts at a time, but I finally cheated to stop dying.

thegapchasm
23-01-2008, 11:49 PM
YES! i thought i should let you know i finally fin white tower sans cube or (ahem) cheating. it's ALOT easier if you arm baccata with the emerald blades. what i did was kill all in one room before i went into the next.

thegapchasm
24-01-2008, 07:08 AM
i'm currently at the xeob's who are impossible to kill. any hints?

blackboard
24-01-2008, 07:46 AM
i'm currently at the xeob's who are impossible to kill. any hints?

Avoid fighting multiple of them. Killing them one by one should work. And save a lot, they can destroy your armor.

This level, and the level after the next one, have some very tough fights. But you are nearly done, so with some patience you should make it.

thegapchasm
25-01-2008, 07:44 AM
sweet i just saved king richard so am about to explore level 3. i couldn't open the chest on 2 with the westwood stick. how important is that?

blackboard
25-01-2008, 06:21 PM
i couldn't open the chest on 2 with the westwood stick. how important is that?
I do not remember this chest, so it cannot be that important :amused:

I think after you made it to level 3 and already healed the king you only need to collect stuff (i.e., keys) found on level 3. No guarantee, though.

linkzone
26-01-2008, 01:20 PM
Ok I saved Lora from the Draracle's cave and I left the cave without letting her see the Draracle. I left got on the row boat and am hunting down dawn. Well what I want to know is this going to mess my game up? Cause I know if I had taken her to see him she would leave. I want to keep her for funs sake.

blackboard
26-01-2008, 05:58 PM
Well what I want to know is this going to mess my game up? Cause I know if I had taken her to see him she would leave.
I have never tried this, but I guess you will get into trouble when you meet Paulson. The game only supports 3 party members (hard coded, you can see this in the save game) and you need Paulson to get his key and Vaelan's Cube.

If you are lucky the game automatically dismisses Lora when you meet Paulson, if you are unlucky your game is messed up.

linkzone
26-01-2008, 07:05 PM
Ok I took some time and read the forum. 75 pages. My God, I thought I was the only one who loved this game. Used to watch my dad play it when I was like 8. Played it myself in 93. Anyway, I wanted to know two things. First can you get dawn as a party member? I read a walkthough were some guy hacked her in his party I want to know can you do it without hacking? And two. I know this is a forum for Lands of Lore, but is there somewhere I can download the game called Stone Keep?

blackboard
26-01-2008, 09:27 PM
First can you get dawn as a party member? can you do it without hacking?
I don't think you can do it without hacking. The game is only designed for a party of 3 members, and at the end you already have three. One would have to leave, which of course can be scripted, but I did not encounter a situation where this would seem plausible. Probably this was planned, but cut from the game in the end.

is there somewhere I can download the game called Stone Keep?
No idea about this one.

Scatty
27-01-2008, 03:53 AM
And two. I know this is a forum for Lands of Lore, but is there somewhere I can download the game called Stone Keep?
If you register as a member, and post around for a while, then you will be able to access the ISO Cellar subforum. There you can download the ISO of Stonekeep.

thegapchasm
28-01-2008, 07:27 AM
http://i25.tinypic.com/2cnib8o.png

woohoo!!

i felt like the castle was abit of a letdown. the last real challenge was the knowles v xeobs. but still, this was such a great game!