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[Chilledfish]

Hi!
The first one should be easy, but I can't for the life of me find it. Mind you that I was able to find almost any other obscure 20 year old game I was trying to find.
It was a simple adventure game with VGA graphics. There was something with a beach and kissing. I think it was controlled with text instructions. The executable had sierra in it I think.

The second one is a really obscure one. It is an RPG with Elves and everything. It had an elaborate editor with all the toolset. It was also VGA graphics I think. It could even been an RPG maker for all I know. I was too young and Israeli to understand anything about it, but when I think about it know, it looks awesome in my mind. I know the description isn't much, but any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Edit: The second one was top down with a grid (either invisible or visible). The characters were about a square centimeter. It kinda looks like Ultima V.