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[Sebatianos]

I thought long and hard about even replying to this...
When I first joined the forum I met Alfred (he had back then). He semed nice but troubled. I started talking to him and I never felt he misused my confidence.
Thanks to him I also got some great Russian songs (and I weren't the only one).
Now as a teacher I have to be able to judge people's characters (I'm not an expert, but I do have some experiance), so here's what I think:

Something happened. FreeFreddy was very interested in the ocult (many posts showed that). He was probably also quite lonely (many posts under different names kindda prove that), but that was still harmless... I never realised (until now) just how many aliases he had. So he was trying to get some attention. Still no problem - it's a freindly comunity here and I guess there's quite a lot of us coming here to chat or exchange opinions (but not with ourselves...).
That might not harm anyone true, but it does show people how desperate somebody is. To present himself/herself as more popular you create an alter ego that becomes a fan of yours... That's just sad.
And now a problem apeares - this person is basically just trying to boost the selfimage - but is actually turning the forum into a private playground. And that's not what this forum is ment for (and I'm not talking just about Freddy now, but in general).
The admins decided to Freddy and the reasons they gave are valid (despite what some say). Off course the person getting banned will not agree to that. Rarelly people agree to accept punishment. If there is anything further on to be discused let them handle it on their own - they have each other's e-mails and msn accounts...
And Alfred if you want to talk about anything to me - just let me know. I guess you still have my e-mail or you can look it up any time. I have nothing against you, but I stand behind the admins on this one. You might have done it all just in good clean fun, but it's gotten out of hands.

I do have a word of advice to the newer members (like ReamusLQ and some others). You guys created you accounts (might be paranioa, but right now anybody could be FF) at the time Freddy wasn't that active any more and you didn't really get to know him. Just what gives you the right to question the decisions of administrators about a person they got to know really well and you only heard a few things about? Do you have such mistrust for the admis - or are you just rebels without a clue? I questioned many of their decisions in the past, but only once about a member they gave a slap on the wrist to - it was Yamcha. Everything got settled in a more or less civilized tone and the matter was resolved. Otherwise I never had a real complaint about the decisions of the admins (at least until they explained their decisions - you don't have to blindly follow them).

[Dino]

I would like to give my opinion about this one...

Well, I agree with Eagle and Fawful, and especially Seb, who has the same opinion as I do... I don't know FF really good, he never did me any harm, nor something nice for me. But I have read archives and many forum topics and I didn't like some of his statements, but who was I to judge him, I might have been wrong...

But now, hearing and reading all this stuff, I CAN'T say that I back him up... Multiple accounts, emotional involving with himself, insulting and pretending to be someone else - well, those may not be strictly breaking forum rules, but that shows that he has certain problems and gives me very good reason to believe admins' decision and their statements about FF... He is using this forum to treat his problem, as it was his playground... Large part of this forum are kind-hearted people and they would surely help him any way they could if he had a problem and admitted it... But he seems to have tricked too many people, so it's very hard for me to feel sorry for him, and probably the same goes for all the people that don't back him up...

FF mentioned Wendy and Tai as his support... Well, they are certainly very kind persons, as all of us know it, and I won't question their reasons for supporting FF... But it seems that he is just misusing their trust, and that's just wrong!

Well Freddy, as all of us know, you'll be back again, no matter what you say now... I've never had a chance to meet you, so all statements above are just my personal view based on all that has been said... I can only say I'm sorry that you didn't do some things differently, because all of this could be avoided only if you had DIFFERENT APPROACH to the problem...And I hope you won't miss this forum since it irritates and annoys you so much... Nevertheless, I wish all best to you.

[Puffin]

Why is there always someone doubting what the admins do?
(No need to answer this. It's not a real question.)

How about showing a tiny bit of trust towards them? They really know what they're doing. And that people that I dare call new, like Reamus, are doubting this, that's ridiculus. You weren't here earlier. And I don't think you really knew / know him. Did he ever call you a wh ore? And an indecisive kid? Nope, don't think so.

[Mad-E-Fact]

Now I'm a relatively new member myself, so my opinion probably doesn't have much merit anyway. I don't really know FreeFreddy, nor do I care much about him on a personal level. I do believe, however, that in the best interest of this forum, such decisions as banning an user should not be taken based on personal differences or private wars someone might have had with that user. If someone is way out of line, disrupts the forum, or is a public annoyance, then actions against hat person must be taken to ensure a civil atmosphere in the forum. BUT what people do in private, their relationships and petty quarrels, is theirs alone to settle in private, and should not effect a member's standing on the forum as a whole.

My opinion. Take it for what it is.

[taikara]

Freddy never harmed me. I never had a problem with him. I can definitely understand why he did it, even if I personally don't think it was the best way to go about things...

But the truth is, there's no reason to start rising up against the admins for this, especially not publically. What's done has been done, and there was a reason they did it. The admins would have been more than happy to answer questions privately. I talked to them about it, myself.

There's just no need to make this into such an issue. There are better ways to handle the situation.

And the thing is, the admins are here for the site, first and foremost. They put so much effort into this place, and without them, there wouldn't even be a forum community in which we could be having this discussion.

It just doesn't make sense to me that after they have done so much for us, worked so hard, people would think they don't care about the community. They've built it, and watched it grow and mature... how could they not care?

I trust their decision. They've been here longer than I have, and know more about the community, the people in it, and the situation. And without them, I wouldn't even be here in the first place.

[Kosta]

I don't want to go being blackened by the comments of the admins who I earlier thought were people I could trust.

Let me tell you a thing about believing who your friends are. You were admin here for a while. You always talked nicely with me and never said you had an issue with me. I did see through your phony act though, but tried to convince myself that I was just being paranoid. Well, at least up until the point that one of the kids you surround yourself with probably broke one of your sacred vows and told me the various things you called me. That much about creating genuine and sincere friendships.

Secondly, if you really cared for this site, instead of your shameless selfless promotion playground you created here, you would have protected its interests on several occasions that people worked against it.

Do you really think your forum is still as charming and comfy as it was once?

Believe it or not, yes, this forum is still as charming and comfy without your divine presence Freddy. I know this might feel hard to grasp, but although you tried to make yourself the centre spot of this forum, it doesn't mean it can't function nicely without you. There are still active members here that registered before you, that's all the proof I need.

That was once, and after your secretly did and bad argumented this deleting out of the corner, without telling me of it, I don't intend to return here again at all.

I've already addressed "secret actions" in the first argument of this post. You shouldn't talk about secret actions because your whole persona on this forum is based on secrets and lies. So please, no more hypocrisy. If, at any point, you told me over MSN what you're about to do, then it wouldn't have come to this.

Wendymaree is such a kind soul, she along with some others, like Taikara, understood why I did what I did.

And just another proof of the fantasy world you live it. Sure, they understand, I understand that you probably need help, but I really doubt that they also approve of it.

Instead you just move on and delete me out of 2 correct and 7.5 false reasons.

I didn't delete your account because I feel pitty, not anger. But obviously you managed to piss off someone else.

Weren't that you who striked cowardly instead of notifying me before doing that?

When you are banned, Freddy, there is no need to NOTIFY you that your account will be deleted. Your account was deleted because you decided to ignore your ban.

Why should I make amends with you when you even didn't ask me why I did what I did?

Again, Freddy, try to understand that if you are banned and wish to, perhaps, return, then you should talk to me about it. Directly. I have no obligation to ask YOU why you are doing whatever it is you are doing. Remember, you are the one that is supposed to explain your actions to admins.

But things happen sometimes, everyone has his own bad times. Why shouldn't I have my bad time?

Sure you can. You can have a bad time PRIVATELY. You can have a bad time in your appartment. You can have a bad time with your psychiatrist, he's paid for it after all. But a forum that is full of kids that can't understand your obsessive compulsive disorder is NOT the place to have your bad time. I am sorry, deal with it privately. When you get better, feel free to let us know.

And most of all, isn't it anymore allowed on this form to explain himself before being judged?

Did you really try to explain yourself to me? Remember, like it or not, but I am in charge of this forum. Explaining yourself to Kiddiarni or Puffin couldn't really be helpful. And I'm talking about times BEFORE this incident.

I should stop now, it isn't worth it to try, they are deaf to my words.

I'm affraid you are deaf to other people's words. You don't even realise that you've been given many more chances than any regular member would because of all the things you stood for on this forum. However, you can't expect to continue playing your little game forever, regardless of the countless warnings, and go unpunished.

Oh, yes, btw. You may delete my account now, to feel yourself more satisfied.

I feel like I'm repeating myself here, but your account was not deleted because of satisfaction. You manipulated too many people's emotions, and we've had just too many complaints against you. It came to the point that it became sickening. When 2 of your true friends turn against you, you should really take some time off and think about your actions.

[Omuletzu]

I didn't have any issues with ff.Nor was i close to him or anything like that.He was just a normal member to me, altough i respected(and i still do) for what he has done for this site.In my eyes he will still be one of the most important people of this site.Two bad he had to go down like this... it's a real shame...
We should hold a day of silence for him(ie no posts during one day to remember all that he has done for us, and cherish his (good) actions).

[Nijya]

You gave me much to think on here. Obviosly I didn't see the things like you do. Maybe you are right, maybe I just was here to "play" without even noticing that. I'll have to rethink anything I did again. See? I used this account again to answer here, though I stated I will not do it again...
Well, have a good day yet, all. And please, delete this account.

[wendymaree]

I think all this is upsetting for everyone. Could we please close the thread and move on.

[Omuletzu]

Nah, i think the masses should speak freely(there are still important members that haven't said a word)