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[Romano]

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman

Not quite. There are two things we don't have.
1. Access to contents of the main server (the one hosting the site and the forum).
2. Direct access to site and forum databases.
Lack of these abilities simply prevents us from resolving certain issues with the site and the forum (of course, we're trying to work around them whenever possible).
Basically, Abandonia can continue in its current state.

Not quite. There are three things you don't have.
1. Access to contents of the main server
2. Direct access to site and forum databases.
3. Drupal programming knowledge.

[Luchsen]

Wrong, the third one is time.

[The Fifth Horseman]

We can either learn it ourselves or find someone who already has the neccesary skill set. As such, it's a non-factor.

[Mighty Midget]

5th is totally correct. For Drupal: Knowledge is all it takes. Access is another thing and a problem we need to find a solution for. As for time, we have time, for the time being, meaning if we don't get preoccupied with nonsense, 4 years should get us somewhere.

EDIT: JMB got there first. This post was aimed at the posts prior to his.

[Romano]

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman

We can either learn it ourselves or find someone who already has the neccesary skill set. As such, it's a non-factor.

About a hundred thousand SLOC can not be a "non-factor"

If I understand you well, you would like to have access to source code, and not knowing anything about coding.

As you like to say "Abandonia Forums are not democracy", I can say "Abandonia is not open source". Unfortunately

[The Fifth Horseman]

About a hundred thousand SLOC can not be a "non-factor"

In a different equation, maybe.
For all the mysticism you seem to perceive in it, programming is just a set of skills. Nothing more, nothing less.
The code can be modified in portions.
There can be more than a single person working on it.

If I understand you well, you would like to have access to source code, and not knowing anything about coding.

Not "I would like to". "We need to".
If you prefer having a completely bugged site, your choice.
We don't.

I can say "Abandonia is not open source".

I didn't say anything about open source. What are you getting at?

[Japo]

Hm actually the Drupal platform, that Abandonia is based on, _is_ open source. :P (All interpreted languages--as opposed to compiled ones--are open source in a way... And AFAIK Drupal is not about writing code, it's a CMS.) Anyway, not really sure how software licencing is relevant here, at any rate. Drupal can be learnt, yes of course. And I guess whoever has access to the server will be able to see and modify Abandonia's Drupal system.

[TheChosen]

http://php.opensourcecms.com/scripts...p?scriptid=191

You can try a demo of Drupal here. Just log in to the admin page. The password and login is mentioned on the page. Should give some information on how it works.

I had to test it myself for a school project last thursday. Its kind of a complicated and it takes time to learn, or thats what I've said to my teacher when he asked my opinion of it.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Romano Krauth

Not quite. There are three things you don't have.
1. Access to contents of the main server
2. Direct access to site and forum databases.
3. Drupal programming knowledge.

As said these things could help but are not necessary
We are solving problems and working on the site using a little of html, css, and discovering day by day our "hidden powers".
We can create pages for the site, add services and change forum's layout.
All under developement.