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Old 27-06-2009, 08:16 PM   #1
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Default ABANDONIA NOT "cURL" FRIENDLY

I recently discovered that "Abandonia" no longer allows segmented, session-to-session downloads, at least as far as "cURL" (my preferred download manager) is concerned. In the past, I was able to copy the download link location, paste it into the "cURL" command-line, and download for a pre-determined
interval, preserving each segment session-to-session. No longer! Now the "Abandonia" server tells me that I must "revalidate" for each session, and byte-range downloads are not supported. It is now "download all or nothing".

This new policy effectively "shuts the door" on me, and other dial-up users, who lack the download speed necessary for large downloads. Please bring back the "old way" of doing things and make it again possible for dial-up users to take downloads in smaller "chunks". Making "Abandonia" "cURL-friendly" could also further encourage the open-source-software community.

By the way, I discovered "cURL" when I began using Mandriva Linux. A Windows version is also available.

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Old 27-06-2009, 08:19 PM   #2
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Encourage the open-source-software community?
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Old 28-06-2009, 05:06 AM   #3
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Old 28-06-2009, 07:49 AM   #4
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I recently discovered that "Abandonia" no longer allows segmented, session-to-session downloads, at least as far as "cURL" (my preferred download manager) is concerned. In the past, I was able to copy the download link location, paste it into the "cURL" command-line, and download for a pre-determined
interval, preserving each segment session-to-session. No longer! Now the "Abandonia" server tells me that I must "revalidate" for each session, and byte-range downloads are not supported. It is now "download all or nothing".

This new policy effectively "shuts the door" on me, and other dial-up users, who lack the download speed necessary for large downloads. Please bring back the "old way" of doing things and make it again possible for dial-up users to take downloads in smaller "chunks". Making "Abandonia" "cURL-friendly" could also further encourage the open-source-software community.

By the way, I discovered "cURL" when I began using Mandriva Linux. A Windows version is also available.

I believe Studentis have started patching up security problems among other things. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you're effectively saying is that the download URL becomes invalid after a while, right? I believe this was done to avoid other sites from directly linking to our downloads and stealing our bandwidth. If a link does not change, this is easy to do.
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Old 28-06-2009, 08:40 AM   #5
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Mmmbut . I used to have a download manager that did something similar. You could pause downloads and resume them later. Speed optimiser, it was called. I got rid of it because i have broadband at work and didn't need it, and it kept opening when i didn't want it to. But i'm sure you can toggle that in options.
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Old 28-06-2009, 09:23 AM   #6
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As far as I understand, the download system was changed in recent weeks - exactly for the reason of stopping bandwidth thief sites.

Thanks for notifying us of the problem.
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Old 28-06-2009, 02:28 PM   #7
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You can add new URLs in your download manager.
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Old 28-06-2009, 05:19 PM   #8
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unless this has been fixed in the last few days, then adding a new link to download manager does not work. downloads have been labelled as non-resumable by my download manager. tried entering a new url after having some downloads stop, and it did not work. had to start dowload over again.
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Old 29-06-2009, 02:03 PM   #9
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To further explain the merits of "cURL"; it not only allows downloads to be resumed (if supported by the server), but also allows session-to-session resumption of downloads, that is, one segment one day, another segment another day, etc. Most GUI download managers (I have one installed), do not allow session-to-session downloading.

Changes at "Abandonia" have thwarted the usage of "cURL". As far as I could see, the former way of doing things at "Abandonia" was adequate to stop bandwidth thieves. A string in the download link changed every time the download page was accessed, making it necessary to paste the changed download link into the "cURL" command-line every session. But "cURL" still worked -- download resumption was possible.

Now, "cURL" is useless. As with other GUI download managers, it is "download all or nothing." I think the "new way" of doing things at "Abandonia" is a definite regression.

And as far as broadband being "cheap", dial-up is even cheaper. How about 99 USD per year. What a deal! And I do not think it is smart marketing to try to force people to buy broadband access to make full use of a website.

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To further explain the merits of "cURL"; it not only allows downloads to be resumed (if supported by the server), but also allows session-to-session resumption of downloads, that is, one segment one day, another segment another day, etc. Most GUI download managers (I have one installed), do not allow session-to-session downloading.

Changes at "Abandonia" have thwarted the usage of "cURL". As far as I could see, the former way of doing things at "Abandonia" was adequate to stop bandwidth thieves. A string in the download link changed every time the download page was accessed, making it necessary to paste the changed download link into the "cURL" command-line every session. But "cURL" still worked -- download resumption was possible.

Now, "cURL" is useless. As with other GUI download managers, it is "download all or nothing." I think the "new way" of doing things at "Abandonia" is a definite regression.

And as far as broadband being "cheap", dial-up is even cheaper. How about 99 USD per year. What a deal! And I do not think it is smart marketing to try to force people to buy broadband access to make full use of a website.

I don't think it's smart to use dial-up in this day and age, but maybe that's just me.

Unless you tell me good reasons why should we make a concession and not you, I'll treat this as a joke.

Since dial-up users are so limited they:

-Block ads and never view them
-Never click on ads because it takes too much to load
-Rarely visit forums and usually don't contribute to the site

First: we're trying to survive, not to do marketing schemes. We're only promoting AB for the community and the old games.

Second: There are guys who make money using our bandwidth, and basically you want us to let them stealing from you and from AB, just so that you have a session-to-session download.
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