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View Poll Results: Is Diablo a role-playing game or not? | |||
Yes, it is. | 20 | 55.56% | |
No, it's not. | 16 | 44.44% | |
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21-04-2009, 02:39 AM | #21 | ||
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The first thing there... Well, I have no idea what you're trying to say. The latter, however... Agreed. To. The. Max.
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21-04-2009, 02:48 AM | #22 | ||
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What do you not understand exactly? I was simply saying that may people just don't know better and don't understand how or why either.
For the second point, I was refering to the fact that it is written on the Diablo box itself that it's a RPG, as well as the fact that it is praised as a RPG too when it is obviously not... |
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21-04-2009, 02:57 AM | #23 | ||
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Oh, okay.
About the second point: While I know you were referring to that, I agreed with that people do indeed believe anything written on a box. Still standing my ground on the Diablo arguement, however.
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21-04-2009, 01:41 PM | #24 | ||||
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Consider the very source of the name: Role Playing. Playing a role. That in itself indicates that the "gameplay" is plot-driven and the defining part is the "player" experiencing the setting and storyline, as well as the way he interacts with them. Quote:
But by that definition, a game lacking combat element would not be an RPG. Altough the popularized simplified view of role-playing aims to identify it with an experience system and character statistics, that definition is wrong. Both elements are undisputably common in the genre, but by no means define it. You could take Fallout, throw out the combat and still have a role-playing game. You could do the same with the experience system and even the stats, and the game would still remain an RPG. You could take Diablo, throw out the combat... and have what, exactly? Going around, talking to people using pre-determined dialogue lines and bringing them items they asked for? That, my friend, would not be role-playing but an adventure game. Truth is that Diablo is defined by combat - to exclusion of everything else - and lack of the player's interaction with the storyline. |
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21-04-2009, 03:31 PM | #25 | ||
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Ok here's my opinion about Diablo:
It's a Hack N Slash/Action RPG. You can create your character, you level up, you get to increase a stat or get a new skill(Diablo 2 only). Then you do some quests whilst going through 16 levels of monster mayhem and then you defeat Diablo and game over, start on another difficulty. An action RPG focuses more on combat then Role-playing elements, that's why you can't "ask for a reward" or "fall in love with an NPC." If you want to do stuff like what Fifth said about Fallout or Arcanum then go play a CRPG, not an Action-RPG like Diablo. Definition of an Action-RPG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_role-playing_game And CRPGs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_rpg
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21-04-2009, 05:10 PM | #26 | ||
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I agree with Tomekk and everyone else in favour of Diablo 2 being an Action-RPG. Simply put, it is an ACTION GAME with ROLE-PLAYING elements.
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1.ACTION (running,walking,fighting,clicking) and 2.RPG (Character Selection/Customization*AKA ROLEPLAYING*,Stat Point Allocation+Experience Gain,) NOT PUZZLE STRATEGY SIMULATION ARCADE OR ADVENTURE a. Puzzle (Use your brain to uh, calculate how much damage a carver will do when your wearing some leather armor?) b. Strategy (Use a Druid, summon a whole bunch of minions, and strategically command them through the battlefield? ) c. Simulation (What the heck?? Ok I guess... A theoretical religious medieval simulation where the devil comes down and kills everyone????) d. Arcade (...no comment...) How can you say that ANY of those above have MORE elements than RPG in Diablo 2? AND......... I never even SEEN what it says on the box and yet I defined it ACTION-RPG from MY OWN EXPERIENCES. I don't understand why this is so hard for some of you to accept... it is simply neither RPG nor Action it is an ACTION-RPG. It is silly to try to label games with EXACT genres and exact this and that and rogue-like/classic/blah blah blah... If your too proud about it next time someone asks you just say "ITS AN ACTION GAME - WITH SOME RPG ELEMENTS (also known as an action-rpg." |
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21-04-2009, 06:31 PM | #27 | ||
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It actually isn't written anywhere.. http://www.mobygames.com/game/window...eCoverId,2599/ http://www.mobygames.com/game/window...eCoverId,2600/ http://www.mobygames.com/game/window...eCoverId,2601/ http://www.mobygames.com/game/window...eCoverId,2602/ http://www.mobygames.com/game/window...eCoverId,9085/ |
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21-04-2009, 07:05 PM | #28 | ||
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There are only two genres: "the mental" (Yes, I gave it this name) genre and the "action" genre. The others are just clones or combinations of the two.
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21-04-2009, 08:19 PM | #29 | ||
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In reply to The Fifth Horseman:
Even if you don't affect the storyline you do play the role of a character, don't you? And with the online capabilities of Diablo 2, you can do ACTUAL role-playing in the chat. But then again, the same could be done with Counter-freakin'-Strike. So I suppose that doesn't count... at all. And yeah, I guess I do stand corrected on some points here. But I think I'll turn to Acethor; It's an action RPG. Hence, it IS partly an RPG. Don't say it doesn't have RPG elements. Srsly guiz.
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22-04-2009, 03:40 PM | #30 | ||
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I can't put my finger on Mount and blade (since it wants to be all or nothing) or Boiling point with it's side missions. meh.
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