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16bit errors occur cuz you have a 32 bit os (windows 2000/xp i presume?). are you using DOSbox? download it from this site, it even works for my xp 64bit edition.


and thanks for the fix up from whoever another_guest was. im gonna go try to get some cool figureheads

also, from my previous post, the ships are called 'fully-rigged ships' and its in antwerp, not amsterdam.
those holy weapons are also called crusaders armor/sword.
i guess the japanese version i use to play bout 10 years ago was a bit different.
and for the istanbul-athenes trade route, get some tax free permissions when you have a title. itll boost your pure income up to about 30,0000 gold each trade round.

[laiocfar]

I gor many to say, well i played this game many time....

firstly about items i got already posted all rare items and not only the crusader sword and armor are holy or the best of the best stuff, see for items rated as "*".

About figureheads, u don´t only need to denvelope the proper port, u also need luck!!!. luck is obtained by donate at least a 10% of your money, better say, of your total assets, so donate money too early in the game or too late. but always a 10% of the sum of the bank account, the cash, the ships, the items and the cargo. The ports were u can find good figureheads, i didn´t reseached them so i don´t know.

About ships, the best ship, for me, its at Bristol when industry denveloped to 1000. There are also good ships in some japanesse ports, like nagasaki. There are many oher ports were industry in 1000 will give u new desings, but BRISTOL IS THE BEST ONE, followed by japan and Antwerp.

About the best route, the game say that its the carpet(Istambul)-art(Athens) route. Ans its true this is the best early route. But i know about a better one, Silver from nagasaki and another good(i just don´t rember) from Lubek. The problem of this route its that its to long and only big and good(special ships only found in certains ports with 1000 industry) fleets can make it. The big difference with old Athens-Istambul route its that in this route u can make markert manypullation. :eeeeeh: Theat means that when u get in to Lucbek with the nagasaki silver, u can use a supply ship to purchase cargoes of 100 units of another "luxury"(if silver its a luxury, i didn´t remind if the game says that its a luxury or a precius or) to move the price index of luxury to 150 before sell a whole cargo of 5000 silver and also do that when buying. So buy with the price index of this type of good at 50% and sell with 150%. This trade route need a lot of money to be started but it can duplicate it in few voyages.

[another_guest]

Originally posted by Guest_Danny@Dec 15 2005, 01:39 AM
with the finance from this trade, go to amsterdam and invest at their shipyard. when their skill reaches 100%, they'll be able to produce ships called 'ship'. it costs around 32,000 for each ship but its the best in the game, even better than those venice pirate ships. probably the best ship in the game since its hidden.

There's a flaw in your reasoning: since Amsterdam is a capital in the game, you can't invest in its industry. Or were you referring to another port?

By the way, the gold trading route I mentioned in my previous post is Madeira - Genoa or Madeira - Lübeck. Not too long, huge profits once you raise/lower the price rates according to your needs. This way, hauling gold can easily make you some half a million profit per ship of decent size (say 500 cargo capacity)

[laiocfar]

Another weak spot of the ship called ship it´s that there isn´t any ship called just ship.
The hidden ships are the Tekenbuken(jappanese), Frigate, Brage? and other one. The names maybe are wrong but are mostly as i tiped

yes its 'fully-rigged ship'. my mistake (although the japanese version i played years ago just named it 'ship')

and yeah, it wasnt amsterdam, it was antwerp where you invest to get the fully rigged ships (i heard there are other places too). i heard bristol was good too but it takes too long for industry to reach 100 and i cant find any ship better than the fully-rigged ships (with the exception of Tekkou.. that japanese steel ship, better for battles)

those gold routes you talked about are crazy. with the help of mates with negotiation skills, i could haggle the gold price down to 200 and sell em in north europe for 1200! and with a fleet of fully-rigged ships(capacity 1200) you can make enough in one round to run through the entire game.. now thats just some bomb trading trading there

oh btw, does anyone remember where to get those hidden figureheads and cannons?

[another_guest]

Originally posted by dosterror@Dec 19 2005, 02:42 AM
oh btw, does anyone remember where to get those hidden figureheads and cannons?

Antwerp is one of the ports where you can get these figureheads (and very likely also the cannons). I don't remember the others yet, but maybe Nagasaki as well.
But it takes a LOT of donations to boost your luck... Just check with the fortune teller to keep track of how much you still have to improve your luck. Apparently if she tells you your luck is strong and "...you have nothing to fear..." isn't enough yet.
My estimate would be that some 50 times donating just over 50% of your cash on hand should do the trick, regardless of how doomed you are at the start.
Note that you still may have to try a few times before they offer you any special figureheads or cannons, even if your luck is at its maximum.

Speaking about good trade routes:
1) The Athens - Istanbul route still is one of the most profitable in the game, even if you end up only hauling goods in 1 direction (because the price levels go out of balance because of your trading, as art has a different price than carpets). It's short, no risk of storms, very little risk of pirates.
2) Gold from either Africa or Madeira, to Lübeck. Take silver on the way back to unbalance the price level where you buy your gold.
3) If you're desperately short on cash, take glass beads (for example from Amsterdam) to Timbuktu. Buy them at 2-3 gold apiece, sell for about 45 each. Take as much gold as you can afford on the way back.
4) If you're in Asia, try this one: buy silver at Nagasaki, sell in Zeiton (China). Don't remember what you can take on the way back though... Remember to stock balms if you want to go near Japan!
5) One of the longest routes I'd want to do for trading, but still a good one: carpets from Cairo or nearby cities, sell at Northern European ports.
6) Gold is probably cheapest in Eastern Africa (and of course you can influence their price levels). Sell it in Lübeck. Make sure to have balms with you!

That's it for now... Feel free to post some other interesting trade routes!

ah, excellent! thanks! i needed to make donations

i tried all those routes and i have to say that gold route is the best by far. specially when you have negotiation power and a massive fleet. i also noticed you can get gold even cheaper when you have the tax free permit and you invest to put gold ports under portugals influence, but eventually the economy catches up and gold prices rocket..
still fun though since it makes you feel like a bomb trader when you make big bucks at once

[Captain Ackers]

I'm too lazy to flick through all the posts, but transferred this game onto my Win95, and played. It was k (apart from the iffy controlling of ship) but the thing that bugged me was the music. I have played this on Sega, and know how it should sound, but for some reason it sounded like someone pulling their fingers across a blackboard! The machine, old as it is, does not run DOSBOX (It doesn't need to of course) Any way to fix this, or should I drown it out with some metal. (So appropriate for this style of game)

[Tom Henrik]

Drown it out

I take it that the PC versions has differences in how the special figureheads and guns work? In the SNES version all you had to do was get both the economy and the shipyard to 1000 each. It did help that the port was allied to whatever country you hailed from but luck really didn't play a part in it. I almost never donate funds and have gotten the figureheads and cannons from all over the world. But only once per port. The special ships could only be gotten from certain ports. Bristol and Bordeux ( something like that at least ) sell the Barges but they are way to slow and hard to handle in a fight.

I did find that the duels went better if you understand all the swords and what the special ablilites are since that way you are pretty sure what the other guy will use as an attack. The basic formula goes like this: You parry against a thrust, block against a lash, and dodge against a strike. The ones that inflict the most damage is: Dodge against lash, block against thrust, and parry against strike. So try to fake him into using a defence that will inflict the most damage to him.