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[Stroggy]

Originally posted by The Picard@Dec 6 2004, 04:19 PM

What does that have to do with my post?

Only in statecommunism could one actually prohibit others from leaving.
You act as if emprisonment is a cornerstone of communism. While its actually more a cornerstone of Stalinism

[bohor]

Originally posted by Stroggy+Dec 6 2004, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Stroggy @ Dec 6 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bohor@Dec 6 2004, 04:14 PM
it wouldnt bother me that much if I lived there)..

I seriously doupt that, Che [/b][/quote]
...no really it wouldnt! What, its forbiden to organize big groups? With whom am I going to do that!? I have 10 good friends maximum, and I never go out with more than 3 of them...

[Rogue]

Group of 3 is already problem...

But this brings another issue of you not being very communicative and about your poor social life.

[bohor]

Originally posted by Anubis@Dec 6 2004, 04:21 PM
As tourisms goes, I don’t think it’s any close where it might be.

yes, you are right... They should build way more communistic mounuments (a statue of Tito maybe :whistle: ) and you would see how the tourism would prosper...

and buhuuu... a dady cannot aford to buy his son a brand new ROBOTMAN2000 with a remote control, red-blinking eyes, and a mega fist which, when you press a red button, can be used to shoot down his enemies... I think all kids in Cuba one...

[Rogue]

You got that wrong...

Just for example, we would not have this stupid discussion if you are living in Cuba, as internet is ‘evil of the west', and you would not be able to have a simple PC, even that just couple hundreds of miles away you can buy used PC for couple of bucks.

Not to mention that you hardly survive with what money you can make in a month.

Also, kids who did not rise without the toys have no idea what I am talking about.

[The Niles]

Originally posted by Stroggy+Dec 6 2004, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Stroggy @ Dec 6 2004, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-The Picard@Dec 6 2004, 04:19 PM

What does that have to do with my post?

Only in statecommunism could one actually prohibit others from leaving.
You act as if emprisonment is a cornerstone of communism. While its actually more a cornerstone of Stalinism [/b][/quote]
Communism stands or falls by the willingness of others to participate. If make it voluntary the system will collapse because it is easier not to participate and take advantage of the benefits. In a small scale you can find enough people that are willing to freely participate on larger scales there are a lot of people who do not want that. You could let them leave but that would be the end of the system, communist societies therefore always resort to involuntary compliance.

Besides kibbutz are not that successful either they have just not collapsed wholesale into a pile of rubbish as the USSR and Eastern Europe did 15 years ago.

[mika]

Originally posted by Bankrupt@Dec 6 2004, 02:17 PM
I wounder what people here in abadonia think about communist

Why? No offence to anyone, but this isn't exactly an academic/political forum and therefore most of the people here will only know of communism from what they might have heard on tv or read in books/magazines. Better to ask this of people who have actively studied and compared this.

Also you seem to be missing an "I love it" option. Sounds like American propaganda. Either you hate it, don't care or are one.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by The Picard@Dec 6 2004, 05:29 PM

Besides kibbutz are not that successful either they have just not collapsed wholesale into a pile of rubbish as the USSR and Eastern Europe did 15 years ago.

They were succesfull for a long time. But eventually with the creation of the state of israel its inhabitants felt more as Members of the State of israel, rather than Communists. Many felt the young nation could use their skills more than the commune.

Eventually the communes started using currency (of the state) but to this day each member still preforms his or her task that he or she is best at. Religion is kept to a menimum if there is any at all.

So to claim that it crumbled and is hanging on by a thread would be quite erronous

[Havell]

Good point, there are no positive options on this poll.

[bohor]

Originally posted by Anubis@Dec 6 2004, 04:21 PM
People are trying to do something with their life, have education for their children...You probably have no idea how poor is that country.

I dont see whats the problem here...
on Cuba education and health care is free!! :bleh: LOL