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[Lizard]

All of this reminds me of one of Jack Handy's old Deep Thoughts: "I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

LOL
Unfortunetly he has/had the same picture of mankind as have I.

[Fruit Pie Jones]

its called the freedom of information act, and im not sure we have a right to remove there photos, but we have a right to know if they have any or not.

The FOIA, at least the one we have here in the US, deals with the disclosure of government records requested in writing. What does that have to do with whether or not I can take a picture of Sebatianos?

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Fruit Pie Jones@Apr 27 2005, 11:14 PM
Seriously, is there a law on the books anywhere that says that?

It depends which country you're talking about, but mostly there is something like this yes. If nothing else - if I'm on the picture - then that's partly my property - so they need to have my permisions to have that picture. I do have the copyright to my own images - because the way I look is my own personal pattern. Also cameras in public places could be misused. If I blow my nose in public they can use this to make fun of me - and they shouldn't even be alowed to do this. So, yes there are several way of presenting this as illegal.

Now it almost sounds like you're saying that as long as the topic of crime is never brought up in conversation, nobody will ever commit a crime.

No, but it would decrese it's number. Just like drugs, animal abuse... Most of those things don't start with a person feeling the need for it, but with curiosity. The more you hear about the anti.drug compain the less sensitive you get and the more you're interested if that's really something you should avoid. So you'll get tempted to try. The main problem is overpreportionating such things. If you see a potential drug addic, a potetnial rapeist, a potential killer in most of the people - you're basically paranoid - but obviously the whole society thinks that way. And it's this paranoid way of thinking that needs to stop - and it will eliminate at least some of the temptation of crime.

Just imagine people, who decide to become main news by making a record - and they start killing everybody. It happened. They know they'll be a news sensation so they might do it - or might try to break the previous record. If they thought no one would report about it - they'd have one motive less (and an importaint one in this case). And why would this be reported? because people will love to hear about it - because people are generaly bloodthursty.

[omg]

Originally posted by Fruit Pie Jones@Apr 27 2005, 09:21 PM

That's the sort of statistic that begs for supporting documentation, if you know what I mean.

couldent find iq, but literacy rates are here u.k 24th u.s 70th which doesnt really suprise me. as for the iq quote got it from micheal moore, but come on a democratic nation that accepts a non democratically elected president .. i really hope for the sake of the world you guys somehow get rid of him so laws like the one this thread is about dont get passed.

[Fruit Pie Jones]

Originally posted by Sebatianos+Apr 27 2005, 03:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sebatianos @ Apr 27 2005, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>It depends which country you're talking about, but mostly there is something like this yes. If nothing else - if I'm on the picture - then that's partly my property - so they need to have my permisions to have that picture. I do have the copyright to my own images - because the way I look is my own personal pattern. Also cameras in public places could be misused. If I blow my nose in public they can use this to make fun of me - and they shouldn't even be alowed to do this. So, yes there are several way of presenting this as illegal.[/b]

Remind me not to take pictures of Slovenia. I'd hate to get sued because I took a shot of the view from the top of Mount Triglav and your attorney determined that the pixel located at (2384,1216) was you blowing your nose in public. Some might say that if you don't want people taking pictures of you doing embarrassing things in public, then you shouldn't do embarrassing things in public, but I guess that could be seen as unfairly keeping money out of the hands of lawyers.

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Apr 27 2005, 03:27 PM
No, but it would decrese it's number. Just like drugs, animal abuse... Most of those things don't start with a person feeling the need for it, but with curiosity. The more you hear about the anti.drug compain the less sensitive you get and the more you're interested if that's really something you should avoid. So you'll get tempted to try.

If we're actually talking about me, then no, that's not the case at all. I've been hearing stories of people getting busted for drugs for almost as long as I can remember, and it has not in the least made me want to be one of them. Maybe that's just me.

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Just imagine people, who decide to become main news by making a record - and they start killing everybody. It happened. They know they'll be a news sensation so they might do it - or might try to break the previous record. If they thought no one would report about it - they'd have one motive less (and an importaint one in this case). And why would this be reported? because people will love to hear about it - because people are generaly bloodthursty.[/quote]
I agree with you that the news media oversensationalize things a bit. And it is certainly conceivable that someone would go on a killing spree just to get media attention, but I fail to see how thinking that this could never happen has any effect on its likelihood. I just don't believe that I (or you, or anyone else) can control the world with my thoughts. Would that it were so...

On an unrelated note, it's time for me to go home, so I probably won't be responding to anything else in this thread until at least tomorrow.

[Fruit Pie Jones]

couldent find iq, but literacy rates are here u.k 24th u.s 70th which doesnt really suprise me. as for the iq quote got it from micheal moore, but come on a democratic nation that accepts a non democratically elected president .. i really hope for the sake of the world you guys somehow get rid of him so laws like the one this thread is about dont get passed.

We are not a democracy. We are a republic. Might wanna study up on those terms, or at least go play Civilization for a bit.

Really, I have to go home.

[Havell]

Originally posted by Fruit Pie Jones@Apr 27 2005, 11:01 PM

We are not a democracy. We are a republic. Might wanna study up on those terms, or at least go play Civilization for a bit.

Really, I have to go home.

The US political party names seem really stupid to me seeing as they are, in fact, both republican and both democratic.

[BeefontheBone]

The US is a democratic Republic, as are most democracies, and that's what Democracy means in Civilization, too - a true democracy is impractical in reality, if a good ideal.

[omg]

We are not a democracy.* We are a republic.* Might wanna study up on those terms, or at least go play Civilization for a bit.

:ranting:

well maybe u will wake up tommorow and see this, maybe not, and maybe should start a new thread on the subject of american democracy. but your president seemed rather proud of the fact he was bringing democracy to iraq. accuse me of stupidity all you like. the statistics speak for themselfs. and by the way it was c.i.a literacy figures. this gun law is stupid. you all seem to feel you need guns to feel safe, which is all this law and this thread seems to be about, ie: do we need guns or not? is this new law a good thing or not? im not american but giving people the right to shoot someone because they FEEL threatened can NOT be a good thing. u already had the right to shoot someone in your homes, now u can shoot them in the streets! woohoo ......

[Havell]

Don't you think it's strange that some Americans are so proud of their revolutionary past but they hate anyone who says a thing against their leader?