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[DeathDude]

Anyone ever listen to some Kamelot? Just been getting back into some of their albums recently and yeah superb albums, from Karma, to Epica, to their latest with The Black Halo, I totally recommend any metal fan to pick up The Black Halo, as it's a masterpiece, that is going to be hard to top by these guys, but I have faith they will.

[Iowa]

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Okay...now for those of you who even care or listen to Slipknot: Which album is better, their self-titled or Iowa?

I like Iowa better, personally... (no way!)
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Iowa is probably the better album, but the self titled one and the newer one that I forget the name of are both good too.

As for Metallica, personally I'm not a big fan of any of their stuff (to put it mildly) but I think if you're gonna check out anything by them, get Master of Puppets.
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Slipknot's new album is a masterpiece, they managed to write great lyrics and compose stunning music, and it all still has the "Corey Taylor" energy...

I haven't listened to any Stone Sour...are they any good?

[IberianWolf]

stone sour is okay and slipknot suck. cmon... they have some listenable songs, but they're highly overrated. i'm sick of hearing one of my colleagues talking about slipknot.


my favourite band would probably be Cult of Luna... next in the list may be Atreyu, though their last album didn't feel as good as the other ones. I also like Between the Buried and Me and Number Twelve Looks Like You a lot. You guys should also give a listen to Raein, Saetia and Daitro.


by the way, best metallica album ever was ride the lightning followed by and justice for all. i also love master of puppets obviously, but these are my favourites. :P

And I can't stand listening to a whole Iron maiden or manowar album. it bores the hell out of me, same for dragonforce. i know they are very good musicieans... but too much leather-spikes-shred metal bores me.

[Mighty Midget]

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... but too much leather-spikes-shred metal bores me.
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I guess you won't laugh at Gwar then? :P LOL

[DeathDude]

I'll give dragonforce props on their muscianship but don't like their singer, can't stand his voice. Manowar yeah wayy too cheesy, anyone get to hear the new Iron Maiden album? Have only heard 3 tracks off of it, but lot of people saying this is one of their best, some of the really hardcore fans who still think they haven't produced a good album since Somewhere in Time and or Seventh Son are saying finally that it's a great album.

[Himmler]

they look like clowns..or some sort of action-heroes...idk

[Iowa]

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stone sour is okay and slipknot suck. cmon... they have some listenable songs, but they're highly overrated. i'm sick of hearing one of my colleagues talking about slipknot.
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Actually, in my opinion all Slipknot songs are listenable, in fact, their songs range from listenable to masterpiece...

[Heretic]

Moonstrider : I hadnt imagined that the government would be terribly keen to fund extreme metal acts flying across the globe given its content? Im not saying it would be impossible, just never really considerred it.. i wonder if maybe things are different in Australia, in terms of metals popularity compared to Norway as i hear its really very well known across your way. <?>

Horoma : As with the remark you made concerning Destroyer666 and Hated By Humanity, i dont think that the bands in question were searching for an overly 'creative' title, more so that they were looking for a title that fits their work best. Being familiar with it, i think they were choices very well made. Nice to see another 'noise' listener here also.

As for people asking for opinions on Slipknot, it seems they have gained so much momentum, that theyre so commonly mentioned it can get a little annoying to hear people go on, but more often than not people are spending so much time talking about "How sheet (<---am i gonna get in trouble for that?) they are.. As i said before im not interested in jumping on the "youre cool if you rag on Slipknot wagon"

i think that all their records are really quite unique, and varied album to album.. And that it will come down to the individual to find a preference.

Someone mentioned Peccatum? Which after recieving a promo of the first album i was largely dissapointed with, i felt it had one or two decent tracks..Oh well.

Ill still be interested to hear this project Ihsahn has released (under the same name) but i dont hold particularly high hopes for it..

[Iowa]

I know what you mean by it getting annoying listening to people talk about it, believe me, I experience the same thing at my school with System of A Down and Nickelback (both bands i've barely heard any music from).

What I can't seem to figure out though, is exactly how they became so mainstream. I mean, one listen to their title album and Iowa can surely tell you that it isn't exactly "casual listener" friendly...did they by any chance happen to go mainstream with their new album?

[Heretic]

Thats an interesting question actually, and i can only really speculate as to why they recieved such attention. I dont really know much about the band even, just the very occasional thing that i have read, but anyway..

I suppose from the get go, that their sound on the demo was very promising, and that at no stage in those days did Slipknot really have any clones, nor do i think they attempted to clone other bands - so they had invariably their own, unique sound. Closest to it might have been something like Korn, Deftones, or some of those other Numetal bands i guess? (Not sure!)

Following that, i think they were signed directly to Roadrunner, which is a giant company and produces alot of more mainstream metal music, has the funds to promote and finance a band on a massive scale etc.

Then theres the content in general in the music, which at the time seemed to really cut back to the bone so to speak, on the level that it was so harsh and aggresive, yet strangely catchy. Engaging lyrical content, consisting of hatred, isolation, depression and self empowerment. So i think theres certainly a number of people out there able to identify with these elements.

Last but not least, theres the big fiasco concerning the masks, that so many people figured it to be a gimmick, and though i personally dont see it that way, regardless wether it was a gimmick or not, it does make one take a second glance at the bands image.

And i guess it just all really became an avalanche from the very beginning, that when bands do something rather unique, or different, it causes controversy, and so theres all a sudden this big stir about it and seems more and more people wanted to see what the big deal was. So i guess from here you have people who think this 'big deal' is overrated or ridiculous or whatever.. But i dont really believe that the band set out with this scale of popularuty in mind. Though of course i could be wrong, i really dont care, as im listening to it as music. And am not terribly interested in the 'politics' or whatever involved with it.

<edit> as with their new record, i assume you mean "The Subliminal Verses" - some might take it as a more commercial album actually, as theres many elements on the album that might suggest so. Though Corey's voice sounds in parts like its worn away a little, and the production on the sound is quite different than in the past. As for these elements i mentioned : Accoustic parts, clean vocal harmonies, piano, guitar solos, new approach to writing, No swearing in the lyrics, and even a track which sounds like a country song! (No really!!)

All things they had never before attempted, and for one i think the result was excellent. That theyve pushed the boundaries in not just metal, but music itself. And also have flipped off everyone that tried to 'pigeon hole' or box away this band into what they think they know about Slipknot. This album definately requires personal opinion, and i think its with that in mind that i like it so much. Because if you dont have at least that, then you have less than nothing.