Master of Magic

Mystvan · 14-04-2018, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystvan

It was really a pity that the old MOM site has disappeared as there were descriptions about Heroes and Champions that even Wikia did not explain such as the personal relationships between them:

• Rivalry between female Healer and the Dark Mage;
• Roland the Paladin is her protector;
• The fallen Paladin is allied to the Dark Mage;
• The old sage “predicted” the birth of the powerful Wizard of Chaos (Shenlong!?);
• etc.

Fortunately, that site came back and even brought another mirror site.

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Originally Posted by marko river

You do know about fan wikia site with practically all info you need?

Greetings from Poke-man,

Bonk! Bonk! Grand Micronaut marko River. ........

Yes, I agree with you.

On the other hand, I point out again: the site shows information that not even Wikia shows. If you check out the “Hero Compendium” part, you will notice that the site tells the background of each Hero / Champion. I do not know where he / she got this information, but whether it is official or non-canonical information, at least it adds more spice and fun to the game.

marko river · 16-04-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystvan

... On the other hand, I point out again: the site shows information that not even Wikia shows. If you check out the “Hero Compendium” part, you will notice that the site tells the background of each Hero / Champion. I do not know where he / she got this information, but whether it is official or non-canonical information, at least it adds more spice and fun to the game.

Oh, you're right about that. Well, don't know where they got that info from neither, but it does add spice indeed

Mystvan · 17-04-2018, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by marko river

Oh, you're right about that. Well, don't know where they got that info from neither, but it does add spice indeed

I am not sure, but I believe I saved the pages of the original author in MHT years ago.

I’ve already found my old external HD and let’s see if I find the blessed pages.

And then, the site owner, a fan of the old site like me years ago,

could add more information.

And unfortunately, this is a sad reality for the old sites, true gems, which have been lost over time.

Mystvan · 05-11-2018, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystvan

I am not sure, but I believe I saved the pages of the original author in MHT years ago.

I’ve already found my old external HD and let’s see if I find the blessed pages.

And then, the site owner, a fan of the old site like me years ago,

could add more information.

And unfortunately, this is a sad reality for the old sites, true gems, which have been lost over time.

I almost finished uploading my personal data, only 01 External HDD to complete the task. *phew* *whew*

I was able to retrieve some data, as far as possible, using Recuva, but I believe the result was not satisfactory. *shrug*

Blake00 · 07-06-2019, 08:06 PM

I've recently made a video (as part of a up and coming Civ related games in HD series) touring what I feel is the best MoM fan remake project out there called Master of Magic – Implode’s Multiplayer Edition, a brilliant Open Source Java MoM engine rebuild that supports larger maps, up to 14 players (either Human or AI), and any modern resolution like HD 4K etc. The only stuff it's missing is AI and some good bug fixing and polishing.

Although sadly it's creator Implode has gone AWOL and the project has been inactive for a while now..

But hopefully one day he'll return to it, or someone else will finish what he started due to it being opensource...

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Mystvan · 08-06-2019, 04:22 PM

Too bad.

I assume it is the same as the Remakes of Wing Commander Privateer Gemini Gold and Wing Commander: Privateer Remake.

The sale of these games (now compatible with latest Operating Systems) on Online Stores like GOG.com and Origin have contributed to the abandonment of the Remake Projects (MoM and Privateer)?

Blake00 · 09-08-2019, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystvan

Too bad.

I assume it is the same as the Remakes of Wing Commander Privateer Gemini Gold and Wing Commander: Privateer Remake.

The sale of these games (now compatible with latest Operating Systems) on Online Stores like GOG.com and Origin have contributed to the abandonment of the Remake Projects (MoM and Privateer)?

I've been meaning to look into those as I'm a big WC Privateer fan! So they never got finished? Such a shame.

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OH MY GOD!!! :O

Looks like I don't have to worry about this unfinished fan remake anymore as it appears we've got an official Master of Magic sequel or Remake on way (courtesy of Slitherine who've bought the rights from Atari's IP dungeon and just made the announcement on their site)!!!

Guess this explains the mysterious Atari activities I noticed recently. Clearly they reacquired MoM so they could sell it to Slitherine for $$$.

I'm such a super fan of this 25 year old game that I run a MoM fans facebook group so as you can image I'm SUPER EXCITED about this news lol.

I can't can't believe that after all these years a real sequel just might be happening now. Sadly most of the old MoM forums are long dead so if there's any fans here who know of a good old MoM2 wishlist/feature request list out there please let me know and I'll go post it over on the Slitherine forums (which I've just signed up to).

They've probably barely started the project yet so now is the time to get fan feature requests and wish list items in front of their faces. If the remaining fan base doesn't speak up now then god knows what sort of game we'll end up with. So now is the time to act!

EDIT: BIG NEWS! Slitherine have indeed spoken to Seravy as they releasing his Caster of Magic as an official DLC to Master of Magic on Steam and GoG!!!
https://blakessanctum.wordpress.com/...m-gog/

EDIT2: On top of that Slitherine have also now setup an official Master of Magic forum! And they've kindly moved my ever growing MoM2 wishlist thread into there too.
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=590

EDIT3:
And if all that isn't enough Seravy has hinted that he is working on a Caster of Magic 2! A full MoM rebuild in a new engine with all of CoM's changes built in and much more due to being free of the old games limitations. Eg full 14 wizard salughterfest games!!

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Mystvan · 20-08-2019, 11:24 PM

Wow! They are certainly good news!

Thank you so much for sharing them with us. Let’s really hope things work out and can be completed successfully.

Blake00 · 24-08-2019, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystvan

Wow! They are certainly good news!

Thank you so much for sharing them with us. Let’s really hope things work out and can be completed successfully.

Yup, fingers crossed!

Most fans I've talked to so far appear to be mostly wanting MoM with a fresh coat of paint and don't want the wheel reinvented. Some have made some crazy suggestions but generally everything people come up with has already been done in one of the MoM style spin off games (eg Age of Wonders, Warlock, Endless Legend, Sorcerer/Elemental/FE, Worlds of Magic/PQ, Eador, Dominions etc) so such a change would make it feel more like them than a MoM sequel. So they need to update it but also be careful that they don't turn it into something else that has already been done and quite possibly done better.

A few people have joined up and posted their lack of faith in the Slitherine forums under their announcement and they were shot down pretty quick by fans of Slitherines other games, so their customer loyalty is a promising sign at least.

I've never played Fantasy General but apparently they're doing a pretty good job with it. I looked at some of the other games under their name and found some interesting ones..

Polaris appears to be a Master of Orion style game:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4...olaris_Sector/

Pandora appears to be a Alpha Centuari, Civ Beyond Earth / AoW Planetfall sort of game:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2...First_Contact/

They don't rate highly on steam but they look okay and many of the reviews (even the bad ones) all seem to talk about how hardcore the AI is so that's promising. Yeah they don't look like amazing genre changing games but they actually give me some comfort as it shows they have years of experience with 4x PC strategy gaming. Hopefully they take the good stuff from these stepping stone games and learn from the bad stuff people didn't like and put them to good use with their MoM project. Although it looks like different developers worked on those games and Slitherine just published them, so I wonder who they will put on MoM.

PS is it just me or is Pandora using the same world engine as Warlock? That is so darn similar lol.

Blake00 · 01-03-2020, 12:47 PM

Well this is interesting news! Seravy has done a deal with Slitherine (the new MoM license holder working on a new MoM game) and Caster of Magic is now a buyable ‘officially approved’ Master of Magic addon on Steam & GoG! Naturally Seravy has promised to continue doing more amazing improvements to the mod now that he’s receiving financial reward for his hard work. Caster of Magic is already amazing enough as it changes & improves MoM so much but my god if he ever finds a way to exceed the 4 enemy player limit I’ll have his baby lol!

Announcement thread:
https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/...d.php?tid=9846

The only downside is all previous copies of CoM have been wiped! Don’t think I’ve grabbed a copy since 5.6, which must have been a while back as he’s now up to 6.0 lol!

EDIT: Sure enough here they are! They’ve gone live!
https://www.gog.com/game/master_of_m...aster_of_magic
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1...ster_of_Magic/

EDIT 2:
I just realised.. Master of Magic wasn’t even on steam until now.. they’re doing a joint release of both MoM & CoM on steam! Wow!
https://steamcommunity.com/app/11463...4292532351222/

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