First official discussion about the game
Tom Henrik sender:
Overf?ring av "ABANDONIA - The Game.rtf" er fullf?rt.
Tom Henrik sier:
I wrote this late yesterday night.
Tom Henrik sier:
Just an idea
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Let me read it!
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Kosta and Titan has been added to the crew. Who would you try to locate next?
- FreeFreddy
- WendyMaree
- Tom Henrik
- Puffin
hey, someone IMPORTANT is missing from the list
Tom Henrik sier:
Later down, my friend
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
I was thinking of Iron
Tom Henrik sier:
No way.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Aaaw
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
RPG Maker 2000?
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
The idea of headquarters remembers me of Shining Force for Sega...
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Hell, sounds like a good start
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Should we rip some FF sprites?
Tom Henrik sier:
I thought about ripping all games possible.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
yes, but for the Pc and NPC
Tom Henrik sier:
I thought about using the design from every game.
Tom Henrik sier:
So that we would walk around like Larry in Larry 1.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
what about faces
Tom Henrik sier:
Our own
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
uhm...ok
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
photo or pixel?
Tom Henrik sier:
pixel.
Tom Henrik sier:
I can do the characters.
Tom Henrik sier:
(Since I have an idea )
Tom Henrik sier:
Hard to explain.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
ook.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
I could write down some plot and dialogues
Tom Henrik sier:
I thought about using "real" sentences from the dialogue.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
real sentences?
Tom Henrik sier:
Sorry... from the forum FOR the dialogues
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Tom Henrik sier:
Give me a scene.
Tom Henrik sier:
A situation.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
WEll, some evil monster appears suddenly in the woods of King's Quest.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
What should happen in your opinion?
Tom Henrik sier:
Wait
Tom Henrik sier:
Kosta is booring
Tom Henrik sier:
Basically I just thought we should do a post search for each member to find a post that can be used in the scenario in the game.
Tom Henrik sier:
This will not work everytime, but it could be fun to implement sometimes in the game.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Yes, maybe some typical sentences.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Like freyja saying "Eg rokka"
Tom Henrik sier:
I also pictured Freddy telling a story...
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
What kinda?
Tom Henrik sier:
Freddy:
Well you see... it all happened like this....
*fade screen*
Tom Henrik sier:
*screen fade in*
....But there appeared another evid dude on the horizon already - Arachnotron, an evil spideric spawn from Hell.....
*fade out*
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
I see
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Well, do you know how to make this kind of game? It will have stats as well I hope.
Tom Henrik sier:
*fade in*
In the sea they discovered a hidden and strange building that led to somewhere deep inside
*fade out
Tom Henrik sier:
I will have stats.
Tom Henrik sier:
It
Tom Henrik sier:
So you should try to make a balanced team for every game.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Yes, but could we modify stats a bit? loike adding new ones
Tom Henrik sier:
Yes. The game wi not be serious. All characters should have "special attacks"
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Smurf Ray!
Tom Henrik sier:
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Cynical Beam!
Tom Henrik sier:
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Puffin's Death Beak
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Bite, not Beak
Tom Henrik sier:
Well... better.
Tom Henrik sier:
Remeber that in the HQ we are all humans.
Tom Henrik sier:
In the game we will mutate.
Tom Henrik sier:
Into an appropriate form to the game.
Tom Henrik sier:
Like pimps and hoes for Larry
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
This last things looks bit too complex for me to make
Tom Henrik sier:
Well, I can make the characters. You could try to make a basic story line. Just place a lot of ideas on a piece of paper.
Tom Henrik sier:
Have you played Kingdom Hearts?
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Sadly not
Tom Henrik sier:
If you get the oppurtunity, you should.
Tom Henrik sier:
Buy it. The game is EXCELLENT!
Tom Henrik sier:
And it gives the feel I have the idea of using.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Does it exist for PC?
Tom Henrik sier:
PS2
Tom Henrik sier:
http://mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,7/gameId,7341/
Tom Henrik sier:
Read the description and look at the screens
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
I don't have a ps2...
Tom Henrik sier:
Buy it!
Tom Henrik sier:
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Nah
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Looks cool, very cool
Tom Henrik sier:
It is.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
But I'm in another game now...
Tom Henrik sier:
And they travel to different worlds, mutating to an appropriate form.
Tom Henrik sier:
http://mobygames.com/game/shots/p,7/gameId...meShotId,48480/
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Yeah, nice
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
But it'll require months
Tom Henrik sier:
Are you in a rush?
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
No
Tom Henrik sier:
Personally I am thinking about living a couple of more years.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
The problem is, I don't like starting lots of new projects and not finish them soon....I think I never started a project I knew it would take LONg time...but this one is intriguing. I'm in.
Tom Henrik sier:
Yay
Tom Henrik sier:
You should get a PS2 and Kingdom Hearts. It is one of the best games EVER made. It will be worth the money. And it makes this idea easier.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
I'd like to...but there're 2 things preventing me from doing that...2 lacks, actually.
Tom Henrik sier:
Electricity and money?
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
1-Lack of time: I know starting a great game will steal even more time, and since December is the month I have a huge amount of exams, time is really precious to me.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
2-Lack of money: since my school is DIFFICULT, I don't really have time to do a part-time job, and money I get from other sources I use for travels and for buying everyday stuff
Tom Henrik sier:
Ah.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
The free time i have, I use on extra-school projects or staying online. Not to mention Saturday evening which I consider sacred
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
We have school on Saturday morning btw, it's not that common in Europe
Tom Henrik sier:
Nope.
Tom Henrik sier:
Well... no-one is hanging over you.
You do what you feel like, when you feel like it
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
yeah
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
You know what's funny
Tom Henrik sier:
Jokes?
....
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
tell me
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
How many people are you involving in the game developing?
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
development
Tom Henrik sier:
As many as possible
Tom Henrik sier:
All will have different assignments
Tom Henrik sier:
After all we need people who can do the different things.
Tom Henrik sier:
Mapping, designing, plotting, ripping and so on.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
I'm bit into mapping, if it's what I think you're saying
Tom Henrik sier:
http://mobygames.com/game/shots/p,7/gameId...meShotId,48490/
Tom Henrik sier:
This is a perfect screenshot!
Tom Henrik sier:
(From Kingdom Hearts)
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
ok
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
So, planning the worlds?
Tom Henrik sier:
Let me talk you through it
Tom Henrik sier:
See gummi garage?
Tom Henrik sier:
That would be HQ
Tom Henrik sier:
aka Abandonia Forum.
Tom Henrik sier:
Here you can meet up with the others. Set up a team of players. Train in different abilities. And so on.
Tom Henrik sier:
Then by using a device (In Kingdom Hearts they used a spaceship) you can travel to different worlds (games in our case).
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
k
Tom Henrik sier:
By completing a scene or game, you will unlock a new world.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
so, mapping is...
Tom Henrik sier:
That would be making a background.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
ook.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
I drew a map once
Tom Henrik sier:
(I think
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
wanna see it.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
?
Tom Henrik sier:
I think mapping is making backgrounds.
Tom Henrik sier:
Do you see the portals on that screenshot?
Tom Henrik sier:
yellow-brownish things.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
ok
Tom Henrik sier:
See them?
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
yea
Tom Henrik sier:
You can travel to a place far away with them, but you have to fly your spaceship through heavy resistance. Meteors, enemy ships and so on.
Tom Henrik sier:
So I thought we should use it as well, but use different games for the different portals. Like Tyrian 2000.
Tom Henrik sier:
What do you think?
Tom Henrik sier:
Like the idea?
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
It's getting everytime more complex
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
My only doubt is, if the idea won't fall down
Tom Henrik sier:
Yes. That is why we need many people.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Well, tell people them...You could start with Admi forum.
Tom Henrik sier:
I hope we can get people involved in it.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
them=then
Tom Henrik sier:
I will.
Tom Henrik sier:
Gamers always tell the gaming industry how they should make games.
This is our chance to show them that we know what we are talking about.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Ok.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
This would be quite a thing
Tom Henrik sier:
It would
Tom Henrik sier:
But I don't think it would be so big in terms of size.
Tom Henrik sier:
I was thinking about using scenes from old games. So the number of colours wouldn't be that big.
Tom Henrik sier:
For instance when you, Puffin and Stroggy (for instance) are warped to Zork 1.
Tom Henrik sier:
It would be black
Tom Henrik sier:
And you would only be communicating through text.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
I'd like the idea to do it with cool photos, Zork. Just to tell new 3d games can go *meep* arses
Tom Henrik sier:
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
"That's EXACTLY how I imagined it!!!"
Tom Henrik sier:
Also, I think it would be fun to make the characters mutate according to their stats.
Tom Henrik sier:
Take this as an example....
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Here is Zork
http://wallpaper.net.au/wallpaper/abstract...%201024x768.jpg
Tom Henrik sier:
nice
Tom Henrik sier:
I will just mention this game... not abandoned game, so it will not be used in the game. Hopefully you will get the idea
Tom Henrik sier:
You, Puffin and Stroggy are the party sent to Final Fantasy 7
Tom Henrik sier:
You have a high score in Weaponry
Puff has a high score in healing
And Stroggy has a high score in speed.
Tom Henrik sier:
You would mutate into a sort of Alberto-this
http://mobygames.com/game/shots/p,3/gameId...meShotId,11755/
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
got it
Tom Henrik sier:
Puff would be a sort of Freyja-this
http://mobygames.com/game/shots/p,3/gameId...meShotId,11749/
Tom Henrik sier:
And strog would be one of these...
http://mobygames.com/game/shots/p,3/gameId...meShotId,13955/
Tom Henrik sier:
Thus creating a comic relief.
Tom Henrik sier:
And open the game to a great dialogue.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
yeah
Tom Henrik sier:
Stroggy was just an example, but we should try to make it like that.
Tom Henrik sier:
If someone has a speed score over 150.... and enters the world of Final Fantasy.... then he should become a chocobo.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
yup
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Pity there won't be FF
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
well, Endless Nova maybe
Tom Henrik sier:
not?
Tom Henrik sier:
Tom Henrik sier:
It has chocobos.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
ok...
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
What about Street Fighter?
Tom Henrik sier:
But that is just an idea.
Tom Henrik sier:
We have to look over every game we want to use, and decide how each one should mutate.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
I think it's more likely we should keep PC as they are
Tom Henrik sier:
That would be esiest.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
But everyone would have his own reaction and personality according to where he is
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
LOTS of dialogue
Tom Henrik sier:
I agree to that
Tom Henrik sier:
But I want to implement a scene where something goes wrong.
Tom Henrik sier:
And one turns out different. (A bug in the program)
Tom Henrik sier:
Like someone becoming a chocobo.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
likey that.
Tom Henrik sier:
Ever played Tekken Tag?
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
I played Tekken
Tom Henrik sier:
Hmm...
Tom Henrik sier:
Have you seen Tekken Tag? Or do you know what the Tag-system is?
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
2 players?
Tom Henrik sier:
One guy is in control of two players.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
ok
Tom Henrik sier:
These two can be swapped between.
Tom Henrik sier:
(Like wrestling, when one leaves the arena and another one comes in to kick some behind).
Tom Henrik sier:
When one is fighting, the other guy is resting - gaining HP.
Tom Henrik sier:
We could use that system as well in some games, like Abuse, where only one guy can be used at all times.
For adventure games and RPG games, we can use the whole team.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel sier:
Do you have the first idea on how is this possible to code? Are we using a program?
Tom Henrik sier:
I am just launching ideas.
We need persons who can use different programs, and who can code and such.
There is a whole forum to use.
Tom Henrik sier:
I will start recruiting from the center and move out from there... Admins, Moderators.... VIP's.... Forum.... Friends....