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Old 06-10-2008, 11:43 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by Kugerfang View Post
A utopia can only be accomplished by using force to force people.
Either:
You are thinking of utopia as an impossible, perfect perfect idea of life, wherin perfect perfect means that there is no crime, no work to do, no argument, no disagreement etc. (thus not human, but totalitarian).

Or:
You didn't remember that a Rechtsstaat is an instituted force, forcing people to a righteous life (counting as a good force). Additionally, I don't want to know, where our world would be today without the historic forces of revolution and enlightenment which were accomplished by the stupid, unsatisfied hoi polloi, while the thinkers were the clerks (always exploiting the same old power).
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