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Originally Posted by dosraider
Would that not be the truth as you see it? One of the many 'truths' around ....
Werner von Daniken would disagree with you, and tell you it's the alien species who do this stuff. See, that's his truth.....
There are many thruths around, and each has their believers/non-believers.
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exactly the thing I was talking about. "One of the many 'truths' around..." We are carpet-bombed by movies, books and other entertainment stuff with this precise concept
:Conspiracy Theory, Enemy of the State, Conspiracy,
Minority Report,
The Conversation,
The Net and many-many more: these feature cartoonish, over-the-top depictions of events and people, and by the fact that they are
movies, books, stories, ergo
fictitious, thus, in your brain, drawing an equal-sign between the two, making the people indifferent to real world examples like Zeitgeist, or other documentaries for that matter, because people are made to believe, that no such thing could exist as world-running corporations, secret government proceedings and the like. "
They are only in the movies... they does not exist"
As for Däniken, I read some of his books. They are quite interesting, and he does present some things that very hard to explain. Like ancient tribes' knowledge about technology, they couldn't even know about, or mysterious references in scriptures about astrological stuff not even visible without a huge telescope. Aliens really visited our planet? No one knows for sure, not even Däniken. But even he denies religion, saying
the exact same thing as Zeitgeist and numerous other documentaries, that religion is only a false, greedy, power-hungry, institutionalized form of old nature-based myths and stories, mainly Sun-worship.
As for the 'your truth' part, I don't believe, that the things in the two movies are really
my truth. See, the main problem with theories like Däniken's, is that there is little to no real proof. We
could gather more evidence or investigate, to find out if there is really something behind this idea, but the media ridiculed this topic to oblivion so much along the years, that noone really wants to touch it, lest get ridiculed himself. It's popular opinion that if someone talks about "the truth", "waking up", "uncovering the lies" or things like that, can only be either a) a religious fanatic, b) a conspiracy-theorist/UFO-believer/...etc nerd or a 3) raving lunatic.
The things Däniken investigates, happened more than 6000 years ago, and there is not much verifiable evidence from back then. Yes, carbon-dating and decrypting texts can go a long way, but none of us were really there to see stuff.
The thing is, we are not really sure what happened 6000 years ago, but zeitgeist stuff are happening
now!
You are one of the people in danger of being overrun by the monetary system.
You are the one being lied to by every institution around you, and
you are the one being blatantly exploited and preyed upon by powerful people you don't even believe to exist. Do I believe that there is a huge problem with society? I do. Which...uh...kinda makes it my truth too, granted, but it's not really the point. The point is, that it doesn't hurt to look around you a little better, with a critical eye.
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Originally Posted by Kugerfang
Yes, something is wrong, and you can make it better. But not to the point of having a utopia. A utopia can only be accomplished by using force to force people.
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Um...do you need forcing, to live in a better life? In a society that has no monetary system, thus has no money, no war, no poverty or luxury, no corruption or hidden agendas...etc, and no work. Where machines do every menial task that you can think of, assisting us in our everyday life, where everyone has top quality and totally healthy food and water on their table every day, when people don't kill each other, because there is no need to. Do you really need forcing to live in a world like that? :amused: