i would wait for fifth horseman to post
![Big Grin](http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/images/smilies/generic/biggrin)
by the way. it is auction site, but i meant that its not that companies sold their games 'massively' there (thats what i mean with user-to-user) you can also find the mentioned ignition for trade and its also abandonware
http://cgi.ebay.com/IGNITION-PC-Game-By-Vi...6QQcmdZViewItem