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Originally posted by plix+Dec 13 2005, 09:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (plix @ Dec 13 2005, 09:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Evad@Dec 13 2005, 08:52 PM
Basically all the satanic bible does is reverse all of the sins to be virtues and all of the virtues to be sins.
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As for the follow-ups about the reversal of sins and virtues, that's also way off-base. The "inversionism" of Satanism is about the belief that one is his/her own God, whereas the traditional Judeo-Christian belief is that there exists a higher power. It's the belief that you are the master of your own destiny versus the belief that your life follows the plan of a greater being.
That said, I'm Roman Catholic, but to have an at all meaningful debate you should at least know what the hell you're talking about. It's not like you don't have access to the internet to at least do some cursory research. [/b][/quote]
"Assuming that you mean the actual publication known as "The Satanic Bible" by LaVey, then you're way off. It's actually a collection of essays and poems, to put it very roughly, and is divided into four books on various topics."
Although your description is admittedly better then mine, I was hardly off base. A simple google search could tell you that.
http://churchofsatan.com/Pages/NineStatements.html
These are the 9 statments of LaYey that sum up his brand of Satanism, and they are obviously geared diametricly towards the nine noble virtues that I meantioned previously. They ARE included in the satanic bible.
"As for the follow-ups about the reversal of sins and virtues, that's also way off-base...".
As for my follow up, It had nothing to do with the reversal of the virtues, as I covered that in my opening sentence. My followup explained why Satanists annoy me(which I will cover in the next sentence). Maybe you should re-read my initial post and reorginize your rebuttle.
The "inversionism" of Satanism is about the belief that one is his/her own God, whereas the traditional Judeo-Christian belief is that there exists a higher power.
This is what I was getting at when I said satanists annoy me. They knock Christians for blindly following a dogmatic ridged structured religion and preach that they are their own God.. Well I don't see how Satanists are any different from say a Catholic. Why not just say this is ME, instead of labling yourself a satanist?The answer: because they are as much sheep as the christians they pupose to hate are. Instead of thinking up their own philosophies they latch on to someone elses. Just stupid in my opinion, and pathetic too.
"It's the belief that you are the master of your own destiny versus the belief that your life follows the plan of a greater being."
They also believe that you can influence anothers fate as well no? Through spells? LaVey is also the man who coined the term "Emotional Vampire. Wouldn't these beliefs contradict what you have said as they are out of the "victims" control?
I am guilty of making a badly worded generalization, but way off base is a flat out fabrication of facts. I'm not sure why you would feel the need to discredit me, but whatever I did to make you so mad, I appoligise for here.
"They harp on the stupidity of christianity but don't realize that without it they wouldn't exist so they are hypocrites."<---me
Excuse me, would you care to explain that? <---you
Satan is a Christian character/theme/myth. Basically LaVey plagerized the idea from Christianity. It would follow with this train of thought, that without christianity, Satanism would be called by another name. And lets face it, the fact that they even call themselves satanists is just shock value. This is what I meant. No Christianity, no super-dupper shock extraviganza name. satanists are suckling at the tit of all of christianity.