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veindown 04-08-2006 01:46 AM

Anyone getting database error?

auhsor 04-08-2006 02:22 AM

Yep.

"Sorry, we can't connect you to our database.

This is most likely due to very heavy traffic. Please try again
later. If it persists more than a few minutes, then that probably means our
database is down, which suggests either a temporary server outage, a
scheduled server maintenance, or scary IDSA lawyers."

veindown 04-08-2006 02:38 AM

Wiki brings the pessimisitc news too soon?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_of_the_Underdogs

Abi79 04-08-2006 09:32 AM

Well, as someone said on the wiki talk page, Underdogs lost her interest in that site, so "or whether this may be the final crash in HOTU's illustrious career." might be true.

Titan 04-08-2006 11:28 AM

AB FTW!!!!!!!!!!!111111oneoneone... damn, that's not good news.. we need a site like HotU to have the massive numbers while we provide the quality.

I hope someone else will take over.. If she now lost intrest, why don't sell?

_r.u.s.s. 04-08-2006 11:56 AM

good abandonware fan always have few sites in backup, even with esa protected games :ph34r:

Dream 04-08-2006 01:14 PM

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I hope someone else will take over.. If she now lost intrest, why don't sell?
[/b]
Only a person who uses more than one exclamation mark in it's post can ask such a question.

mario1245 04-08-2006 02:14 PM

it would be quite a shame to see Underdogs go :(

troop18546 04-08-2006 03:24 PM

I'm not sorry for their condition, although they had lots of games, they didn't interest me and the constant lag was unbearable, good ridance.

guesst 04-08-2006 04:36 PM

Aw dang it. On a personal note, this kind of decreases my chances to make an aquisition or two I was trying to in the background.

Tom Henrik 04-08-2006 07:15 PM

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I'm not sorry for their condition, although they had lots of games, they didn't interest me and the constant lag was unbearable, good ridance.
[/b]
Good ridance?! :blink:

You, sir, are not an abandonware fan. If HOTU disappears, then several thousand old games will disappear with it. It will be a huge loss for the entire abandonware scene, and to the computer gaming history. I'll try to get hold of Sarinee, and ask what is going on.

Burger Meister 04-08-2006 07:34 PM

Wow, that's awfull. Home of the Underdogs was the first Abandonware website I've ever been to and I'd say it'd have to be my favourite (Just because I can download ESA protected games!)

Dream 04-08-2006 07:41 PM

You can not download ESA protected games from it you ignorant, as they usually stop hosting them.

Dark Piedone 04-08-2006 07:46 PM

Sad if HOTU dissapears... I played so many good games from them

troop18546 04-08-2006 08:38 PM

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(troop18546 @ Aug 4 2006, 03:24 PM) [snapback]246734[/snapback]
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I'm not sorry for their condition, although they had lots of games, they didn't interest me and the constant lag was unbearable, good ridance.
[/b]
Good ridance?! :blink:

You, sir, are not an abandonware fan. If HOTU disappears, then several thousand old games will disappear with it. It will be a huge loss for the entire abandonware scene, and to the computer gaming history. I'll try to get hold of Sarinee, and ask what is going on.
[/b][/quote]

They were doing illegal sharing of protected and sold games, TH. You yourself had taught me to respect the creator's intensions to help the game not be illegally distributed or downloaded on the internet. I am a fan of abandonware, but you, "sir", are going against your own rule by "convicting" me of not being an abandonware fan, because I do not support HOTU and their wrong-doing. I'm surprised by you. :blink:
If you really want them back so bad, sir, then why not host ESA protected games yourself? <_< You'll be saving Sarinee the trouble.
HOTU, bye bye (I hope).

SupSuper 04-08-2006 10:16 PM

DEAR SWEET MERCY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I'll learn how to "extensively modify the Wiki codebase" if I have to!

guesst 05-08-2006 12:17 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SupSuper @ Aug 4 2006, 10:16 PM) [snapback]246790[/snapback]</div>
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DEAR SWEET MERCY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I'll learn how to "extensively modify the Wiki codebase" if I have to!
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That won't help HOTU.

I for one don't hope this is the end of them. HOTU, XTC (X+C?), we all need to stick together. HOTU has become the-underdog. Don't go kicking them while they're down.

Burger Meister 05-08-2006 01:45 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dream @ Aug 4 2006, 07:41 PM) [snapback]246771[/snapback]</div>
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You can not download ESA protected games from it you ignorant, as they usually stop hosting them.
[/b]
Ok... so why is it that I can download a game such as Urban Assault which is made by Microsoft in 1998 at HOTU. Not anymore... that sucks!

Data 05-08-2006 07:35 AM

And they are back!

Mighty Midget 05-08-2006 07:53 AM

Damn, you guys scared me! Away for a day, and what do I read? HOTU gone? That would be disaster as far as I'm concerned.

And thanks Data, for bringing the good news. I just visited them, and everything seems ok.

velik_m 05-08-2006 10:52 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(troop18546 @ Aug 4 2006, 08:38 PM) [snapback]246784[/snapback]</div>
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They were doing illegal sharing of protected and sold games[/b]
you mean like Abandonia does?

Tom Henrik 05-08-2006 01:43 PM

What do you mean, Velik?

SupSuper 05-08-2006 05:30 PM

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SupSuper @ Aug 4 2006, 10:16 PM) [snapback]246790[/snapback]
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DEAR SWEET MERCY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I'll learn how to "extensively modify the Wiki codebase" if I have to!
[/b]
That won't help HOTU.
[/b][/quote]Why not? If it's mentioned in their frontpage, I'd assume it would.

Dream 05-08-2006 06:20 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom Henrik @ Aug 5 2006, 01:43 PM) [snapback]246850[/snapback]</div>
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What do you mean, Velik?
[/b]
Abandonware is illegal, it's still copyrighted, whether it's sold or not.

Also HOTU does not host games that are being sold. So shut up the lot of you.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(troop18546 @ Aug 4 2006, 08:38 PM) [snapback]246784[/snapback]</div>
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They were doing illegal sharing of protected and sold games, TH. You yourself had taught me to respect the creator's intensions to help the game not be illegally distributed or downloaded on the internet. I am a fan of abandonware, but you, "sir", are going against your own rule by "convicting" me of not being an abandonware fan, because I do not support HOTU and their wrong-doing. I'm surprised by you. :blink:
If you really want them back so bad, sir, then why not host ESA protected games yourself? <_< You'll be saving Sarinee the trouble.
HOTU, bye bye (I hope).
[/b]
Yeah? Like which ones? If you would type "sword of a samurai" into the search queue at HOTU you would find out that you can't download it because it's ESA protected, so obviously HOTU does not host games people don't want them to host. It's a fact, at some reviews you can even see "we don't host this game anymore because we were asked to not do so"

[...]

Another fact: Abandonware IS illegal, Abandonia is hosting copyrighted games if they're not sold like HOTU. Abandoned = not sold anymore, but that doesn't mean they're not copyrighted. You would have to wait 75 years before they would not be copyrighted anymore.

So please do not say such things anymore, please.



[edit:] I removed the VIP thingy and the swearing shortening ...


Quintopotere 05-08-2006 06:21 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dream @ Aug 5 2006, 06:17 PM) [snapback]246880[/snapback]</div>
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So shut up the lot of you.
[/b]
Uuhh... I imagine that you had an hard day... take it easy, please!

We all know that abandonware it's illegal, but we want to save the masterpieces of the past not sold and no more supported, from being forgotten!

Dream 05-08-2006 06:24 PM

I know, I realise that and I appreciate that. But saying that "underdogs was hosting illegal files and thus deserves to fail miserably " is ignorant and it angers me the more so that it is not showing the whole truth.

Quintopotere 05-08-2006 06:31 PM

You are right, but try to be more patient ;)

Many ones here are just kids or they don't know the illegal status of abandonware...

swiss 05-08-2006 06:59 PM

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Many ones here are just kids or they don't know the illegal status of abandonware...
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offtopic, I know: isn't that something we should think about ?

Abi79 05-08-2006 07:37 PM

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Quintopotere @ Aug 5 2006, 08:31 PM) [snapback]246887[/snapback]
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Many ones here are just kids or they don't know the illegal status of abandonware...
[/b]
offtopic, I know: isn't that something we should think about ?
[/b][/quote]Why? :huh: I doubt kids like me will make abandonware sites at this age...

Sith-Avenger 05-08-2006 08:22 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dream @ Aug 5 2006, 07:24 PM) [snapback]246884[/snapback]</div>
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I know, I realise that and I appreciate that. But saying that "underdogs was hosting illegal files and thus deserves to fail miserably " is ignorant and it angers me the more so that it is not showing the whole truth.
[/b]
Good, good! RELEASE your anger!!

The dark side is STRONG in you my young padawan...

Burger Meister 05-08-2006 10:27 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Abi79 @ Aug 5 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]246902[/snapback]</div>
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Why? :huh: I doubt kids like me will make abandonware sites at this age...
[/b]
I'm two years older than you and I run an abandonware website...

Ontopic though, I'm glad HOTU is back up!

Grinder 05-08-2006 11:40 PM

Link please :sneaky:

JimmyJ 05-08-2006 11:50 PM

Yeah, i don't see any link, where is the proof?

Burger Meister 05-08-2006 11:54 PM

Link removed

there you go boys/girls

Please request permission from Kosta (Site Admin) before linking to your site. But a good site, so Im sure he'll say yes ^^
Thanks - Danny :]

Scatty 06-08-2006 05:17 AM

Same link as he posted at Abandoneer forums...

Danny252 06-08-2006 07:07 AM

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Same link as he posted at Abandoneer forums...
[/b]
Heh, that may be, but Im not a mod there, and Im rather sure that the rules are a tad different.
Still, Im sure Kosta'll be happy to let him put up the adress if he asks; Just we dont want links to every single Abware site on the net every third post :]

Lulu_Jane 06-08-2006 07:28 AM

QUOTE(Dream @ Aug 5 2006, 07:24 PM)

I know, I realise that and I appreciate that. But saying that "underdogs was hosting illegal files and thus deserves to fail miserably " is ignorant and it angers me the more so that it is not showing the whole truth.

This I agree with most wholeheartedly.
Hooray that HOTU is back up and kicking behind.
HOTU is like a glorious game museum to me, and both Abandonia and HOTU occupy a special place in my abandonware heart. HOTU dying would be like one of my ventricles clogging up and ultimately exploding! XD

Grinder 06-08-2006 08:41 AM

Awww, Danny, I knew this would happen. Next time please wait for me so I can make fun of his site.

Burger Meister 06-08-2006 03:32 PM

I have contacted kosta, I'm just waiting for him to get back to me on it.

Danny252 06-08-2006 07:10 PM

No problem at all then :]

bobson 06-08-2006 08:00 PM

If abandonwere is illegal, then why noone is closing sites like Underdogs or Abandonia? Because noone cares? Because many people find it normal to NOT pay for anything that can be found on the Internet?
I don't want to say, that I do not download things, because I do. But some of the games i BUY. The ones that I really like. I want the authors to gain money, and create something more excellent. Same with the music (not with the movies, because sooner or later, it'll be on TV)

guesst 06-08-2006 08:37 PM

That is the nature of the word "abandoned". Illegal or not, no one cares.

Burger Meister 07-08-2006 03:25 AM

When he gets back to me, then you can see my site. It's not bad at all actually. I have gotten good comments :)

The Fifth Horseman 07-08-2006 11:25 AM

You can always link to it from your sig.

Playbahnosh 07-08-2006 12:30 PM

If it wasn't for HOTU, I won't be an abandonian today. I visited HOTU first, and than I came here, and stayed here. I guess many of the people coming here are coming straight from HOTU...

I'm glad they're back ^_^

Tom Henrik 07-08-2006 02:28 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Aug 7 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]247154[/snapback]</div>
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You can always link to it from your sig.
[/b]
Not really no. You'd still need Kosta's approval. Just look at the signature rules where it says "No link to similar sites".

The Fifth Horseman 07-08-2006 02:32 PM

Right, forgot the "similar sites" bit.

Burger Meister 07-08-2006 03:37 PM

I don't think he's going to PM me back, I pmed him like 4 or 5 days ago...

all I can say is go to Abandoned Places and look for The Abandonware

Tom Henrik 07-08-2006 03:42 PM

Kosta is on vacation at the seaside, so it will take some time before he will reply to you ;)

Romano 07-08-2006 03:43 PM

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I don't think he's going to PM me back, I pmed him like 4 or 5 days ago...

all I can say is go to Abandoned Places and look for The Abandonware
[/b]
Well. Kosta has no Internet access at the moment. He is on holiday and will be back somewhere at the and of August :)

*edit*
Tom is younger and faster !

The Fifth Horseman 07-08-2006 03:43 PM

Kosta is a busy man. Give him a few days more.

mario1245 07-08-2006 03:48 PM

Thats a good site Burger Meister. I'm liking the game footage. Mines Ancient Games on the list
Back on topic, glad the Underdogs is still up :)

Burger Meister 07-08-2006 10:30 PM

Thanks for the comment mario. I've visited your site before, I like the general feel of it.

mario1245 07-08-2006 10:41 PM

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Thanks for the comment mario. I've visited your site before, I like the general feel of it.
[/b]
Cheers Burger Meister

carpetsmoker 14-08-2006 02:40 PM

HOTU can still be accessed from their IP ... they have domainname problems _AGAIN_

Look at the hotu wikipedia talk page for more details

mario1245 15-08-2006 07:17 PM

The site is fully working if you go to http://www.the-underdogs.info. The .org is still unfunctional as of yet


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