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21-03-2010 06:20 PM
kad3t
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Originally Posted by Smiling Spectre View Post
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kad3t, try to set DOSBox to "full" simulation, then play. As I said, I never seen your problem, but I never tried X-Com through DOSBox too... Also patches (I wrote you about it) could be useful too.

Ah, I see your answer. My version is Gold, patched. It works.
I'm back to DOSBox version as it just feels better. It's due to the gameplay in a windows and the fact it doesn't dissort the colours. I will check that link out though as if I could run the windows version the way I want it I suppose all my problems would be gone...

At the moment I kind of noticed that if I kept many saved games if one fails the earlier one is usuallt fine & it's good enough if I restared the game and loaded it. But will check your adviced link out anyway.

Thanks!
21-03-2010 12:16 PM
Smiling Spectre _r.u.s.s., yes, it is Direct Draw. Yes, it is works. Thank you! But no, it cannot be reached by your link. This link works better.

It need to force set resolution, then "stretch to window" and "slow down to framerate" or else it will be broken.

kad3t, try to set DOSBox to "full" simulation, then play. As I said, I never seen your problem, but I never tried X-Com through DOSBox too... Also patches (I wrote you about it) could be useful too.

Ah, I see your answer. My version is Gold, patched. It works.
18-03-2010 04:32 PM
kad3t
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Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s. View Post
i'm feeling flirty

also, i don't know how is ufo implemented but if it uses ddraw you can use this for the windowed mode
Thanks!

However I didn't get it to work. I've downloaded like 5 or 6 versions of it, some even supporting DX9 also two other programs of a same purpose D3DLookingGlass & D3DWindower and neither seem to work. Regarding DXWND the program itself starts up but even after setting it up for UFO executables I'm unable to launch then through it. I'm not sure if it's UFO or Windows 7 but it just don't work. I'm gonna try updating DX9, as I just reinstalled the Windows but I don't think it will change anything...

Thanks anyway!
18-03-2010 12:57 PM
_r.u.s.s.
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Originally Posted by kad3t View Post
feelings?
i'm feeling flirty

also, i don't know how is ufo implemented but if it uses ddraw you can use this for the windowed mode
18-03-2010 12:05 PM
kad3t I'm answering my own post again but I got it sorted out, at least it looks like I do for now. So, I decided I may wanna share the solution with those who may encounter same issues in the future. I do not however consider the problem completly resolved until I play for a day or two and become sure wether it worked once or altogether. Anyway... I've decided to give Windows version of UFO another go and obviously the glitches appeared on the screen. So, I restarted the game (application, not campaign) and loaded up a save before the save that was broken. Virtualy seconds before the suposedly faulty file. I flew on the same alien base mission and everything was fine. My conclusion here is simple. If the sollution will be permanent it will mean no less than that the DOSBox version of the game was breaking save files and if played under the Windows outing everything is fine, provided you're playing from a correct/not faulty save file.

There is another problem though. Not as big and serious that I won't be able to play UFO. The game won't play in a window. I can only play it in fullscreen (this is the Windows version we're talking here obviously). And as much as it would not be an issue for anyone else, I like to multitask. When I play I often check my mail, read something or browse net for couple of minutes here and there. This is when playing in a window comes in handy. Well, if anyone's got ideas regarding that, I'm also interested. ^__^
18-03-2010 07:07 AM
kad3t Hey everyone!

I wanna wait and see what will Smiling Spectre say as I've send him my save files but I'm close to 100% sure that it's broken save games, now. I base this opinion on a pure fact that the same problem affects both DOSBox & Windows version of a game & a Linux based DOSBox one too. So having all three separate versions not working at the same time with same glitches clearly prooves it's nothing to do with the graphic card drivers. So, to summarise I'm pis**d cause I can't play not only one of my favorite games but also one of the best games ever made. I've got two more ideas for the time being and hopefully one of them will either let me continue from my save states or at least start a new game with no fear of saves breaking down. I'll try to run it through virtual machine (Sun's VirtualBox) & I'll do an Amiga emulator UFO HD Install & try to play it like that with no disk swapping. I'll post any results after I go through those options and in the mean time I'm open to any ideas or solutions you may have to this problem that'll let me play it like a human being through DOSBox. Or maybe playing straight from the beginning at Windows version would cause no harm to save states? Any ideas, experiences or feelings?

Thanks!
16-03-2010 11:49 PM
kad3t
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Originally Posted by Smiling Spectre View Post
As you used several different options, my first suspect will be broken saves. And second - broken game files itself. (Hmm, if there is two different games for DOS and Win, that it is not option. But still...)

So:

1. Try to restart game. Will your glitches go away?

2. Try to delete game dir completely (except saves, of course and reinstall it.

Also you can try to send me your saves. PM me.
Why would the save games break down if I haven't used any cheats or tweaks on neither them or a game itself? I mean I understand it can happen, as a matter of fact when I had my Amiga it was pretty common, but I wasn't expecting it by no means...

Regarding (1), I've restarted the game hundreads of times (both DOS & Windows) & tried it loads of loads of times. Hmm... Unless you mean, restart as in start playing from the beginning again... Then no, I haven't.

In response to (2) I will do that tomorrow afternoon when I'll have some more time as it haven't occured to me it may actually work if I just reinstall the game. Problem is though if I don't own an original but a cracked version, it requires no installation just unpacking & setting up... I'll do that anyway.

And yes, I will send you a save in question, thank you!

Thanks again!
16-03-2010 11:44 PM
kad3t
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Originally Posted by El Quia View Post
I remember having this issue with ye olde DOS at the time, but only with a cracked version I had. When I found an uncracked version (with the copy-protection code sheet) I didn't had that problem. But I don't think that's the problem here, that would be just too much of a coincidence But, just to be on the safe side, are you playing a cracked version?
Yep. It's cracked. That's the only one I can get online. Well, apart from the one on Steam and/or GOG.com. The problem is I know that the version there is the same Windows version that I already have anyway, so I wouldn't wanna pay money to stay in the same spot anyway...
16-03-2010 11:42 PM
kad3t
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Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman View Post
*thumbs nose at the mention of D-Fend*
There's your suspected cause number one.
Suspected cause number two is the possibility of some kind of issue with DOSBox 0.73 - try a lower version (0.72, 0.71, 0.70 should all run it fine)
I tried 0.72 & 0.70 & no change. However I don't think the problem is with either the DOSBox itself or DFend. Why? Well, because the same problem persists with the Windows version of UFO too. That's why I suspected graphic card drivers and/or issues to be the main reason.

Anyway, I've reinstalled Windows today (along with my brand new & fresh Mint Linux), so some time tomorrow will be doing my tests on it and will let everyone know how it went. Maybe it was some kind of a conflict...
16-03-2010 02:33 PM
Smiling Spectre
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Originally Posted by kad3t View Post
That is until begining of third month when I found an alien base somewhere in Russia. I understand that I may be getting to thorough with it but I promised details in the thread title and I'm sticking to it. Anyway...
As you used several different options, my first suspect will be broken saves. And second - broken game files itself. (Hmm, if there is two different games for DOS and Win, that it is not option. But still...)

So:

1. Try to restart game. Will your glitches go away?

2. Try to delete game dir completely (except saves, of course and reinstall it.

Also you can try to send me your saves. PM me.
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