Site issues (forum posts not showing) firefox

[Scatty]

It seems the website has got few issues with the new version that I noticed ever since I updated to it today morning. So far those noticed are:

- When logging in on the main site (http://www.abandonia.com/en/forum) I do seem to be logged in but when I enter the forum there's still the white box with message at the top, for new unregistered visitors. However when I enter the VBulletin version of the forum I am logged in after all. Not a big thing, just that it forces me to use VBulletin forum. Though I do use that one always anyway, others might not (want to).
- After I click on Mark Forums Read at the bottom of the forum, the sub-forums which had new posts / threads when I first entered the forum, stay still marked as not read yet. Same thing happens when I go to a sub-forum, enter the threads with new unread posts, then return to the respective sub-forum or the main forum. It is as if the cookies would not store any changes, though they are activated both as exception for Abandonia and globally.
Re-loading the forum solves the issue, the respective sub-forums become marked as read, so it's also a minor, mainly cosmetical issue.

[GTX2GvO]

It's a known "bug" that actually came with Firefox 4.
It's basically that the browser keeps feeding you the cached page rather then to get the actual page.

In order to "fix" this you need to disable http caching.

Go To about:config
(type it where you type in web addresses)

Then search for:
network.http.use-cache

And set it to False.
Now press (ctrl+)F5 or restart your browser and FireFox should be showing you pages AS THEY ARE.
(and not anymore as they were)


Hope this will end the endless repeating of this in the ChatBox. :)

[Scatty]

That solved the issues, thanks :)

[Paco]

It's a known "bug" that actually came with Firefox 4.
It's basically that the browser keeps feeding you the cached page rather then to get the actual page.

In order to "fix" this you need to disable http caching.

Go To about:config
(type it where you type in web addresses)

Then search for:
network.http.use-cache

And set it to False.
Now press (ctrl+)F5 or restart your browser and FireFox should be showing you pages AS THEY ARE.
(and not anymore as they were)


Hope this will end the endless repeating of this in the ChatBox. :)

I TOLD you in CB to made a Thread about it. ^^ Thank again for your help btw. ^^

[Dave]

I really recommend it, that problem was quite annoying.
Thanks GTX :)

[jesters.ice]

Disabling http-caching makes sense, but not for people with low bandwidth like myself (2 MBit), as it takes forever to load any site :palm: Does anyone know of another workaround, maybe a possibility to disable http-caching for specific sites?

[DarthHelmet86]

Use a newer version of Firefox...they are up to 8 now.

[jesters.ice]

I'm always using latest release, so that doesn't help. This bug never occured on any other sites / forum systems I visit, only on abandonia, so I somehow doubt it's a Firefox bug..

[GTX2GvO]

The bug is actually that the AB forum url (the default /en/forum one) Does NOT contain any "?" or "&" behind any .php links.

Cause that would auto disables the caching of the forum. :)

[jesters.ice]

It's quite confusing :| I started checking the forums seperately ( abandonia.com/vbullet/ ) because of the caching problem.

Edit: I also tried clearing my cookies and cache, which didn't help. Just for info ;)

[Capo]

I'm always using latest release, so that doesn't help. This bug never occured on any other sites / forum systems I visit, only on abandonia, so I somehow doubt it's a Firefox bug..

Yea this problem is very annoying and is present only in this site.

[Japo]

It's probably because of this great idea that the forum is in a frame, while everyone condemned frames forever a decade ago. But it doesn't mean Firefox in not to blame too.

The bug is actually that the AB forum url (the default /en/forum one) Does NOT contain any "?" or "&" behind any .php links.

Cause that would auto disables the caching of the forum. :)
I don't know about Firefox, but if that's the case, you can bookmark this link and use it instead of the website tab:

http://www.abandonia.com/en/forum?url=index.php

Etc, for example if you like to enter through the new posts seach like myself:

http://www.abandonia.com/en/forum?url=search.php?do=getnew

[jesters.ice]

Alright, thanks so far for your help guys. I tried all the other ways to access the forums, but no luck. :( I'll stick with hitting ctrl+r until the actual content is shown for now.

[Zelgadis]

I just noticed similar problems with my Firefox 8. Abandonia is the only site I'm using with such caching issues. Just tried the latest Chrome version and I have some other issues with the forum (even though I was logged into the site the forums thought I was logged out).

You should think about implementing some kind of work around since this can be very frustrating for new users. ;)

[Panthro]

I'm having the same sort of issues with Firefox 8 also. Kinda wish I hadn't upgraded from 3.6 now, since everything was working well with that.

[The Fifth Horseman]

You should think about implementing some kind of work around since this can be very frustrating for new users. ;)The forum's http headers contain every possible meta tag that could prevent the forum pages from being cached.

[jesters.ice]

My actual "workaround" is using Opera as alternative browser. Seems like it displays the forums as it should be. For now ^^

[GTX2GvO]

The forum's http headers contain every possible meta tag that could prevent the forum pages from being cached.

Any details on this? :)

[The Fifth Horseman]

That's all there is:
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Cache-Control" CONTENT="no-cache">
<meta http-equiv="PRAGMA" content="NO-CACHE">
<meta http-equiv="EXPIRES" content="-1">

[Zelgadis]

Well, don't wanna be Captain Obvious here but it doesn't work. Have to keep deleting the entire cache. :(

[Dave]

Tried this solution with firefox?
It disables the caching so it should work:
It's a known "bug" that actually came with Firefox 4.
It's basically that the browser keeps feeding you the cached page rather then to get the actual page.

In order to "fix" this you need to disable http caching.

Go To about:config
(type it where you type in web addresses)

Then search for:
network.http.use-cache

And set it to False.
Now press (ctrl+)F5 or restart your browser and FireFox should be showing you pages AS THEY ARE.
(and not anymore as they were)


Hope this will end the endless repeating of this in the ChatBox. :)

[Capo]

The problem is that this fix will affect every site, not only this one, and i have no problems with other sites.

[Zelgadis]

Indeed. My connection at my aprents house is incredibly slow, browsing without any cache would make everything even slower.

Edit: Even Internet Explorer 9 is affected. Ughhh...

[Japo]

Indeed the only solution we currently have is a huge overkill, browsing without cache is a huge step backwards.

That's all there is:
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Cache-Control" CONTENT="no-cache">
<meta http-equiv="PRAGMA" content="NO-CACHE">
<meta http-equiv="EXPIRES" content="-1">


I guess the problem is because the forum uses the website login--surely through one of those Kosta & Studentis hacks--and the website displays the forum inside a frame. The forum pages have those metas, but the website pages don't.

My actual "workaround" is using Opera as alternative browser. Seems like it displays the forums as it should be. For now ^^

Edit: Even Internet Explorer 9 is affected. Ughhh...

At least I can confirm the report that I've never had problems with Opera, for what it's worth. Although I always enter through http://www.abandonia.com/en/forum?url=search.php?do=getnew and then I open each thread in a new tab, thus getting rid of the frame, then I mark all as read in the first tab with frame and close it. I know that if I'm inactive too long I get logged out and I can only log back into the forum through a website page again.

[dosraider]

... solution ....
Aha, a blast from the past.
Reminds me of the W3 and W95 times ...
We will not correct the bugs in our software, oh noes, you must screw your system settings to match our bugs and we don't care if it f*cks up the rest.

Tsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss........

*to be clear: not aimed at the staff here, I even think it must be really frustrating to report those things and rarely getting adequate respons or fixes.

[Dave]

I've sent another report today, I'll keep you updated.

[Lulu_Jane]

I have stickied this thread because it keeps coming up again and again. If you're having issues with posts not showing in the forums and refreshing not working, you are most likely using firefox, and in that case, this is the fix for you, enjoy :)

[Skywolf]

It does this in Chrome too, I think you need a note at the top of the forum becuse I couldn't tell what the hell was going on!

[GTX2GvO]

If correct the current Forum updates will address this caching issue.
Please report any (still remaining) caching anomalies if/when they show up. :D

[Capo]

The situation is the same for me, no improvements :(

[The Fifth Horseman]

We've recently instituted some further changes to the specific HTTP headers used to prevent this issue, and far as I can tell it should be working fine now.
You'll need to clear your browser cache first to ensure old cached versions of the forum pages aren't interfering. This is one-time-only, as from then on the current set of headers should prevent the forum pages from being cached again.
Please let me know whether this fixes the caching issues for you or you are still experiencing them.

[Capo]

Now it works perfectly, good work!

[Cluseck]

Confirmed!

[Funkmaster5000]

Works for me, too! Thanks a lot!