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[RegalSin]

Originally Posted by Fubb

We moved on too 3D because, like all things mankind does, we move forward. We moved from horses to cars, sails to steam, crappy medieval art to beautiful renaissance art. Man kind is about moving forward with technology, it's no different for games and graphics!

YOU can't fight change, Dutch!

thats from Red Dead if yer wonderin' wonderful 3D game

Why do western use 3d today? Well in the past I would have said, the darn programmers, could not program for there lives. However that responce makes no sense at all. So the reason is this. It is the creativity and how people go about making a videogame.

Not marketing a videogame, not choosing the right platform, not even artstic glory of a videogame. The actually end result creation. Why are westerners using 3d. Why is everybody soooo in love with 3d?

The Japanese would not port a western game even if it had any potential. To prove this simply go and look at the list of western games ( including europe ) that was never released in Japan, and compare it to games released from Japan, to the west. Vice versa. You will see a pattern.

Take for example, Drawn to Life for the NDS. In europe, and even USA but never in Japanese land. Hoever there is this game from Japan, where you can also draw things. Which was Magical pengel, and Drawn to life. There was also this artsy game with the dog thingy on ps2. All the Japanese games got ported to the west but vice versa.

Another example is the company Epoch. Doremon which we all await for on the N64 was never released, however Epoch seems to release games from the west every now and again to Japan. So why is that? Well like ASCII, Epoch is a commercial game series and unlike ASCII who is more about computers, Epoch make releases based on popularity from the west. Or popularity alone.

We had Zelda cdi games and nobody even knew about them? Play the games, or look at them. The CDI games was not bad, but did any of them make any sense.

We got religious people making programming games. I know as we all know, people of certain followings will get jobs that allows them go around and worship whatever. It is about the math folks. You see programmers, might rally together and picket to bend the gamingverse to there knee's. Princess lana is being held hostage by religious fanatics, since they are the ones doing the math.........kind like in "DUNE". In Japan we have people programming games that just cares about the games.

It is all about the comic book art. Remember Earthworm Jim, and Comix Zone? Those games sold well enough since people liked the art, and action. Even the message that was given at the time. Speaking of which where is the comical art when we need it?? I will tell you what. We never had none. By the dawn of 1996, it was pretty much, Japanese, Japanese, and more Japanese. Nobody said, hey maybe there was more to Manga, then all the stuff we like. Maybe we were thinking in the wrong direction. Look at the videogames released late.

While many was good, on the low-grid where was the money on the game grid?????? The money was with console games, not PC. If you were a PC gamer, on any computer including the Amiga, or Apple you was on the wrong boat. This is where the next step occured.

So during the game wars stardate second generation, round three. We had the N64, PSX, and Saturn in Mortal Kombat. So after Jhonny Caged was again Krillioned, the following occured. The Saturn ignoring comic book people, decided to praise on it's 3d usage instead. In America we had to live with a talking 3d Night pugly head ( while in europe there was the electric head ), and in Japan they had Segata Satanchiro.......I feel soo homofied by the fact
we had a talking 3d purple head, that probably messed up, and haunted kids.
Then the N64 being the frankenstiene of Nintendo not wanting to deathmate with SONY, was a Westerners dream machne. A 3d game system built on a 3d developing system. Yet again all the games were ports, and shotty 3d nightmares. The hook line and sinker was the Nintendo fans. We were soo stupid. Owning an N64 was owning a Jagaur CD add-on. It had power but it had zip. All the Zip instead wented onto the PSX which is really a SNES2.
Then FF7 came out and some how the PSX was on top.

The final analysis. Thanks to the internet, people began reading up on comic books. Especially ones from Japn. People realized that they were screwed over into buying 3d games, and they had nothing so how did the west fight back??

X-box....bingo baby. The X-box took the PC and made it into a console. The X-box was like the creme dollar creme at the time. You could run windows 2000 and play your favorite videogame with powerfull 3d. However.

The constant usage of 3d, has become repetitive. Instead of being more creative, or releasing new content. They just redo everything, and use tricks like the newer outside 3d usage

Then with constant brainwashing children born during the 2000's don't even know anything about the comic book lust, or 2d games. Even how sonic and mario is. Go on any other forum, and you will see all the kiddies, just bantering about 3d. People who do not know anything about how to program or create graphics for a game.

The reason why we must not give into 3d, or go back to 2d is that. 3d had weaken the way we can be creative with videogames. It makes the comic book guy who wants to make games ( especially in the west suffer ). [b]It gives reason for acitivist to put more stops on videogames. They even put a bann on comic books with nudity, in it. Comic books peoples. How stupid is that?????? With all the controversy out there, how could they actually make it
seem that fictional works can make people cause crimes. Why should rockstar have to pay money for something they removed from the game, but a random person rehacked into the game???? With stuff like that occuring in the world videogames is just not fun anymore. It is like people is bending fiction for there own selfish reasons, and nobody is not doing anything about it, since they are not trying to.

I am blaming the westerns ability, to create comic book art, that people can appreciate, and buy. The inability to be creative without bowing down to the will of commercialism. The fact, many artists are feeding off the DAD ( medevil ) culture of our societies. Since the USA and even European art world has enough, to feed there cultural lust, they could give a pigs eye about videogames. To even further this, people are bended from studying art, and when they do, they find a bunch of immigrants taking the art jobs. People do not eve know how to get there works into the right consumer base. With the internet it is just twenty times harder. To do so.

Look at the CDI, the N64, the 3d0, the Amiga, the PC before X-box. Why was there not a near 100% base???/ Why not like Mario, Sonic, MetalGear and FF7??? I will tell you why, in the western world videogames has nothing to do with comic books. How many games made today in 3d is of comic book origin and is playable??? About none, I bet the most of them is just gimmick, after gimmick, made to lure players into something they cannot like. This is why, we are in a constant spiral of 3d. Going farther, and father down a hole we will not like. We need everybody to stay away from pro-3d consoles.

I know we wont things that seems new. However it is not new at all, just people selling the same crap over and over again in the wrong spots. Yes everybody in the world does it, but we are losing the fictional battle of creativity to

outsiders who are nationalist
programmers who could care less which marine dies
people who just find a reason to stop being creative.
People who wants to ban comic books for men.
Peple who wants people to think crazy things and die believing in lies.

Everybody here, has power. Power to be creavite, power to bring there world to life, and stand out up there like the diamond that is called the moon. We have to fight, and some how unite against this evil

I am not saying to beleive in lies, I am saying to make the unbelievable real in such a manor we can all be happy. Not just the few and proud, but
ALL.

So I say before you buy anythng 3d. Look between the lines.
I bet if we turned Halo into doom, or even Metroid Prime, into doom.
Nobody could tell the difference. That Halo, barely has any real value then
a multiplayer, capture the flag game with more Aliens. All these war games are just replicates.

Remember adam and eve,..... ( and eve brought adam the online game,
so they could play X-box live when they got divorce and eve ran off with his
son Cain ).

Remember the reason why we all like videogame. Somebody else want to play, and the graphics looked like our favoirite cartoon.

I bet everybody in here could agree, there favorite game is a 2d game no matter what. Then the implusive buyer is going to say "sucthr the phacckk up, blah blah blah I lliikkeeee gimick 3d. "

3d is a monster that is destroying our culture of creative artists. Stop buying all games, donot buy your children any more 3d games. Make them play pong or red tank, blue tank thingy with you. tell them, to create a program before they can play. Teach them how to make comics.

Imagine ten thousand years later. They will say that comic books is only art since it is old. They will laugh at paper usage. That future is a horrible future. A future where the biggots win, and all the creative genius of our time is burried with the works burried with them.

Yeah I am rambling like Cranky Kong, but I know that I am right. I see the future, they are going to bann seeing, bann hearing, bann everything, and it will be like cross between Roller Boys, and THX133.

Do you want your great, great, great grand children to be like THX 133???? or even worst "1984". This is why we need to fight this enemy of self destruction. Why should we live in a world where we are bent into making nothingness. It is like that movie "Running man" a world where everything is limited, and nobody voice could be heard but Arnoldd going AARRUUGGAHH ruAGGHHhgg AAHHH . Come on people smell the death of creativity in all worlds.

3d was a lie, and a bigger lie is the lie that people follow into it. The only reason why they buy it, is that they shun the ways of the comic book.

SSSSPPARRRRRTTTTAAAAAA

We must win, we must fight, This is where we will be reborn, this is where
3d must die. Kill all 3d, smash the 3d scum. burn 3d... is it predicted as it
was maintained. 3d must die, or be limited. we must keep 3d on a short lease.
Burn every 3d out there. Burn it all. 3d is enemy. Smash it all. 3d is the lie.
People can't draw for a living and be happy. It is a human nightmare living in the west. Why???? why re they doing this to our world. ( crying insanely ) we must fight 3d with all of our 2d might. Only in small dosages it is okay. 3d is the cocaine, of the 2d world. So boring, so uncreative, but people want it. We need to have more 2d energy.

[Lulu_Jane]

Dear Regalsin,

Why not take some time out to look around all sections of the forums and get a feel for how the community communicates with each other. Because suddenly dropping in with reams of text telling everybody what they should be thinking probably won't help an interesting conversation on the topic develop.

Kindest regards,
You friendly neighbourhood mod, Lulu

[The Fifth Horseman]

This isn't 2d. This isn't Sparta. This is madness.

SSSSPPARRRRRTTTTAAAAAA

THIS, is permaban. Bitch.

[Titan]