«

[Grinder]

You know how people always go on and on about the sense of life...but really, they have no idea what the heck they're talking about. They all have some goals in their lives, have already achieved some of them and so on, but can you really define the point of anybody's life?
What is the point of your life?

Another thing: The popular "get a life" phrase. Define "life". For me, having a "life", in that particular sense, means the following things:
- Goals
- Good friends
- a proper hobby (proper as in what really makes you happy and isn't pornography)
- a sort of sportive or social activity (may be the same as the hobby)
- some kind of relationship maybe?


Please give your opinions on the two matters (and make Playbahnosh happy)!

[rlbell]

Part of having a life is being content. I recently met a jaded man who was not entirely happy and had difficulty grasping the obvious fact that, educated as I am, I could still find happiness working as a semi-skilled labourer.

I explained to him how finding the satisfaction and/or joy of small things makes it easier to endure the big things when they get you down. More importantly, being able to enjoy the little things puts you in a grand position to enjoy the big things when they come together.

Accept that life is not fair. I look at my failed engineering career (could never convince anyone to hire me) and remind myself that I have done nothing to deserve it, life just isn't fair (accept bad thing). I look at my wife of twelve years and the four children that she has borne me, and remind myself that I have done nothing to deserve it, life just isn't fair (be thankful for good thing). Everyone should revel in the fact that life isn't fair.

Anything worth doing is worth doing well. Anything worth doing well, should feel satisfying when it is completed. Find a way to feel satisfaction with everything that you complete. Whether it is mowing the lawn, shaving, or any of the mundane housekeeping chores that come up at work-- Do it well and feel good about it. I feel good with every cargo pallet I stow in the warehouse. Sometimes it is as easy as dropping down at the end of a row, where I know the shipper will be able to eventually find it. Sometimes it is difficult, as I need spaces for eighteen pallets and I have to shunt things around to get the needed spaces all in one place. The first situation is instant gratification. The second is initially very frustrating, but has a better payoff when things are all worked out.

IF anything else ocurrs to me as i read other replies, I will post them.

[Scatty]

The point of life in my eyes is to live and find out. Nobody can give you an answer that would satisfy you. You'll have to find this point out for yourself.
Life is not fair, I agree, but we have the power to change it to what we want it to be. All we need is to believe in ourselves. Anything we do has consequences, consequences that shape the life surrounding us in one or other way. We can find our place in the world that is fair to us, or live a humble life and depend on others in everything, from happiness to freedom.

[Quintopotere]

To be, or not to be... this is THE question!

I'm always saying something about that in my signature...

We all know that the matter doesn't exist ( ) so I think that it's impossible to find in the material things something that can satisfy our desires of infinity.
Is good to have goals, friends, hobbies and so on, but how much of them continue afther the death? You know, every serious discussion about life MUST involve the death, the only certain thing!
Is the point of life just filling it with things?

There are many ones that reached the points listed by Grinder, but their are not really happy. :tai:

Only love can meke us really happy.
But, what is love?
Why doesn't the majority of the people truly love?

[Grinder]

True, Quinto, death is an important part. But not of life. Life and death are two completely different things. When I die, I want to look back on my life and say to myself "I've taken the opportunities I was given, I've lived my life the way I wanted. I made some people happy and I have made at least some kind of a difference. And now I can go in peace."

You know, the whole point of life discussion always on some extent involves religion. People who believe in the beyond often have a very different view of things, because they 'know' that there is something better waiting for them at the end of the tunnel.

Only the Buddhist are scr*wed, they keep getting lives and lives and lives. :bleh:

As for love - In the past month(s) I have experienced that love does not necessarily mean a relationship-py context. In some kind of way, everybody can love everybody. Friends, family, whatever. But sadly, it's not easy to find that kind of love.
Sometimes, when you feel like your family, supposedly the source of all love, is forsaking you, friends grow more and more important.
When I was younger, I had little to no friends through choice. And it's safe to say that I was a little proud of that attitude. Well, I've changed. I've seen what friends are good for. And let me tell you this: you can not have too many friends. You can just have too many false friends.

[#BlakhOle#]

I think the whole point of life is to live it. Although most people could say they didnt enjoy their lives, making all the wrong decisions and never really living up to their own expectations, they have lived life and thats all they really could have done. Lots of people really dont think it would have made much difference if they existed or not, but who knows what would have happened if they hadn't? No-one, and that's the point.
Life is random, and, as Quintopotere said, the only certain thing is death, and is quite possibly the most fascinating thing other than life there is to discuss. I believe death isn't anything. Not just blackness, but like, well, nothing really. When you think of nothing, the first thing you'd think of black, but black is something, and therefore as far away from nothing as you could get. Have you ever fallen asleep and slept so deeply that the last thing you remember is being awake 12 hours or so earlier and now suddenly it's morning and you're awake, as if nothing even happened, like it didnt even exist? (if you get what i mean) Well i think death is just that. You won't even know, coz you're, well, dead.
Anyway back on topic, I really dont think life has any particular meaning; it's whatever you make it.

[plague]

I'm just trying to stay alive (, pass this world to next generation in as good condition as possible) and see what happens next. Some times things are interesting and some times they aren't. (This wasn't very interesting... I wonder why I wrote it.)

[Quintopotere]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grinder @ Aug 14 2006, 08:09 AM) [snapback]248487[/snapback]</div>

True, Quinto, death is an important part. But not of life. Life and death are two completely different things. When I die, I want to look back on my life and say to myself "I've taken the opportunities I was given, .... And now I can go in peace."
[/b]

Well, but are you going to have the opportunity to llok back on your life then?
I think that death is how we define life! If you look at death as a black hole, like BlackhOle said, or imagine it like the end of a tunnel, or something else, you should give different directives to your life.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grinder @ Aug 14 2006, 08:09 AM) [snapback]248487[/snapback]</div>

Only the Buddhist are scr*wed, they keep getting lives and lives and lives. :bleh:
[/b]

Not only the Buddhist! Nowadays, everyones seems to invent his own religion which fits his ego, so, i know many ones who think that maybe there is some kind of god (or energy, or The Force), who maybe gives you some lifes to "improve yourself"... or something like this... mg2:
That's a very good way to avoid to have to think, and live just for yourself! :tai:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grinder @ Aug 14 2006, 08:09 AM) [snapback]248487[/snapback]</div>

As for love - In the past month(s) I have experienced that love does not necessarily mean a relationship-py context. In some kind of way, everybody can love everybody. Friends, family, whatever. But sadly, it's not easy to find that kind of love.
And let me tell you this: you can not have too many friends. You can just have too many false friends.
[/b]

To love should be just "giving", but we are just little humans and tend to waste our great potential. :wallbash: Friends and parents are good "things" but are humans and can make great mistakes in forgiving how joyful is loving you... we don't have to make the same mistake

Life is our point of view of the truth! k:
(that's a very deep sentence...)

[Grinder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Quintopotere @ Aug 14 2006, 11:31 AM) [snapback]248526[/snapback]</div>

To love should be just "giving", but we are just little humans and tend to waste our great potential. :wallbash: Friends and parents are good "things" but are humans and can make great mistakes in forgiving how joyful is loving you... we don't have to make the same mistake

Life is our point of view of the truth! k:
(that's a very deep sentence...)
[/b]

I like that definition. Love is giving instead of receiving...
Well, I guess if we don't look at the religious aspect, we can say that a goal in everyone's life should be to try and improve the world so their heirs can live a better life. Kind of an altruistic view, but that's what life is all about - cooperation. Think of the world as a sort of OpenSource community

If we do however look at the religious aspect, it totally depends. Christians, Buddhists, Jews, they all try to be good people so they can have a better life after this one. For the Buddhists they either come back as a king with playboy tendencies, a beggar or maybe even a cockroach. Well, not that extreme, but you get my point. Christians and Jews however (Indians, too, I believe) look to the beyond as sort of the thing they have lived their life to earn. From a christian PoV, beyond, or heaven, means to enjoy the fruits of your work on earth imho. I don't know squat about Hinduism, but I think in Buddhism, it's pretty much the same - living for the beyond.

[carpetsmoker]

There is no point in life.
We are here by accident, and nothing more than chemical machines.

Eventually, the universe will either collapse, after that there is nothing, Or the fuel will run out (no more stars) and the universe will be nothing more than a few floating molecules