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[leileilol]

shareware isn't freeware.

Keen Dreams may be found on one of Softdisk's disks, so it's really still sold by softdisk

[Dave]

Shareware isn't freeware
Keen Dreams may be found on one of Softdisk's disks, so it's really still sold by softdisk [/b]

...oh thanks...but I perfectly know what a shareware game is.

Can you prove it?

Read here, SoftDisk seems to be changed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softdisk

[leileilol]

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...oh thanks...but I perfectly know what a shareware game is.

Can you prove it?
[/b]

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shareware

Commander Keen 1 and 4 doesn't mention "Freeware" anywhere on them. They're strictly shareware titles, part of a commercial game series (CK2-3/CK5-6). Plus after quitting, it nags you to order the game. Freeware doesn't do that.

If Abandonia Reloaded started collecting this 'freeware' known as shareware, it'd be a mess. OMG QUAKE EPISODE 1 = FREEWARE etc. It's bad enough the Penumbra tech demo is on the site already confusing people that Penumbra is a freeware game = no.


It's common sense, jeez.



Edit by David: "Can you prove it" was about that:
Keen Dreams may be found on one of Softdisk's disks, so it's really still sold by softdisk

[Dave]

Wait a minute, we're talking about games of the early 90'.
Commander Keen 1 & 4 are freeware because:

1.They aren't still sold.
2.They aren't still protected and so they are abandonware.
3.SoftDisk status (from wikipedia):


Since 1995, Softdisk has been an Internet service provider, Web hosting service, and Internet developer as well, and this eventually became their primary area of business. They have offered local dialup service in the Shreveport area, and Web hosting and development services.

As of 2006, their Web site redirects to that of Bayou Internet, which has taken over their Internet operations. The downloadstore.com site formerly owned and operated by Softdisk is now run by Flat Rock Software, which also publishes former Softdisk product Screen Saver Studio.

Now softdisk is NOT a game developer or publisher.

Understood?
Read here about freeware:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeware

[balvear]

Hi guys. I like Commander keen as much as the next guy born in 1989 but, it ain't no reason to become hill billies alright?

[The Fifth Horseman]

The demo episodes - as freely distributable fully complete stand-alone games - do indeed fall under the definition of Freeware as outlined on Wikipedia.

PS. Balvear - change your signature. It's far taller than allowed by the sigrules (100 px maximum height).