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[omg]

its the term that confuses people i think. sort of hard to judge between your freedom loving smack injecting acid head satanists and your sacrificing babies to baphomet or belial, whatever satanists. why didnt they just call themselfs something else?

some suggestions
freedomists
heroinists
conning rich people out from there money ists

[wendymaree]

Well, I know nothing about this, I must admit - except I knew a very bombastic, angry, mixed up guy once who said he was a satanist in his past and that did involve full on satan worship and involvement. He said he was also involved in some kind of occult rituals and magical working and developed some kind of powers...which was the attraction. However when he left this satanic cult, he said, and I quote: 'When the devil discovered he could no longer control me, he tried to kill me.'

I know all this sounds very weird, and this guy was a very weird person, but he did seem to genuinely experience horrors during the times when he was involved in this cult.

[Aristharus]

I'd say read Wikipedia's article about Satanism. That'll probably clear a few things up.

its the term that confuses people i think. sort of hard to judge between your freedom loving smack injecting acid head satanists and your sacrificing babies to baphomet or belial, whatever satanists. why didnt they just call themselfs something else?

There is a reason for the term Satanism. It doesn't mean they'd worship Satan as a higher being, but they do hold The Bible's tale of Lucifer opposing God and becoming banished from Heaven (or however it goes) in high regard. Satan isn't thought of as evil, but as an independent thinker that didn't accept God's dictatorship.

Well, I know nothing about this, I must admit - except I knew a very bombastic, angry, mixed up guy once who said he was a satanist in his past and that did involve full on satan worship and involvement. He said he was also involved in some kind of occult rituals and magical working and developed some kind of powers...which was the attraction. However when he left this satanic cult, he said, and I quote: 'When the devil discovered he could no longer control me, he tried to kill me.'

I know all this sounds very weird, and this guy was a very weird person, but he did seem to genuinely experience horrors during the times when he was involved in this cult.

Read the chapter Gothic Satanism from the Wikipedia article.

[Chuck the plant]

Originally posted by lethe@Dec 14 2005, 07:26 AM
but I'd refuse the acceptance of a Satan character, simply because I would need to believe in a godly character as well (many so called "satanists" seem to forget this).

Word! k:

@ Aristharus: Yet, by the very mentioning of a "satan" - not to mention by deriving their name from "him" - "satanists" acknowledge and imply the existence of this character, and therefore in turns also the existence of his counterpart, "God", be it even only in a metamophorical way. Deal with it, it was simply a stupid idea to go by that name to start with, because it's self-contradictory as anything... or, more likely, the first "satanists" felt soooooo evil and unruly by alligning themself with such an image... What a Kindergarten of "free spirits" LOL

@ omg:
Satanists who like Black Sabbath

a ) never paid much attention to the lyrics or
b ) only know the "Ronny James Dio"-phase... :whistle:

EDIT: Am I the only one who finds that "do not harm little children" a bit disturbing? To me this stricture somehow seems like "as soon as they're ripe, they're prey"... :ranting:

[Tulac]

Originally posted by plix@Dec 14 2005, 09:01 AM
Satanism is the rejection of all deities and the belief that you are alone responsible for your own spiritual/moral development. It's not about worshipping "Satan."

By that logic every atheist is a satanist? :blink:

[TheChosen]

Im not going to take a part in this religious talk...

[punch999]

I am a agnostic in every way but leaning actually towards the Pagan way of life.

The problem with all relgions are is that they think they are better then all the others.

[Himmler]

[quote]Originally posted by Chuck the plant@Dec 14 2005, 12:26 PM

EDIT: Am I the only one who finds that "do not harm little children" a bit disturbing? To me this stricture somehow seems like "as soon as they're ripe, they're prey"... :ranting:

you can't harm the little children because they are defendless...

[Chuck the plant]

Originally posted by Himmler@Dec 14 2005, 05:30 PM

you can't harm the little children because they are defendless...

Wow, THAT's some serious news.

That wasn't what I was talking about at all, though.

[a1s]

Originally posted by TheChosen@Dec 14 2005, 05:09 PM
Im not going to take a part in this religious talk...

it's ok, you don't have to if you don't want to. :bye:

As for the little children, the text doesn't say you should harm large children, in fact it as far as I got from your discussion it discurages senseless violence (picking fights and such), in favor of vengance to those who actualy deserved it (what could a child possibly do to a grown person like yourself?).