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Old 20-12-2005, 09:16 AM   #11
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Originally posted by Tulac@Dec 20 2005, 04:12 AM
...and not just lately but since USSR is gone...
More like "since the close of WWII." Once the US abandoned it's isolationist foreign policy things really started to go downhill. Korea and Vietnam, anyone? The Red Scare was an excuse for America to exercise it's new-found status as a (if not the) global superpower.
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Old 20-12-2005, 09:28 AM   #12
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Shall I perceive the lack of action from the mods that it is ok to defend the USA to this onslaught?
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Old 20-12-2005, 09:55 AM   #13
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What is exactly going out of hand? Why on every hint of interesting non flaming discussion, people want topics to get closed, cool down jeez...
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Old 20-12-2005, 10:04 AM   #14
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Ok, I can understand that your president is looking out for his people. But he is undermining the fabric of our world. Any way you look at it. Environmentally, internationally, financially. It's actually quite scarey.

I brought this up not to bash Americans, but to point out the strong arm tactics we here in Canada are facing. The two points Prime minister Martin brought up,soft-wood and globalwarming , are valid Canadian issues. I find the fact that your media/programing is calling us "retarded" or "too big for our britches", because our Prime Minister was forced to finally face these issues, insulting. Also, what does this statement say of your elite and their view on disabled persons? Does your Government just put up with "retards" because they are nice, and "not take them serious"?

Sure we had a few loud mouth ministers that bad mouthed your president during your election, but their party members were the first ones out there saying it was uncalled for and that it is not the stance of their respective party. Your ambassador speaks for the administration. The object of his speaches pass in front of the heads of your state. If anything this insult to my nation has been vilified in your news media. It's a digrace I think your ambassador should return to the quack job of a university he went to and retake his classes on ethics. Also I think your president should refrain from extending the laws in which his administration runs under. This has more to do with the way they spy on you then the way they ignore legally binding rulings from the WTO and NAFTA in regards to our soft-wood lumber dispute.

I have regarded most Americans I've met in my life as equals. Noteworthy exceptions to this are loudmouthed nationalists(Tucker) and war mongers(Who do You Think?)
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Old 20-12-2005, 10:59 AM   #15
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I may have spoken rashly about this particular issue.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005...cker050105.html

Seems Tucker may just be a disgruntled former employee of CNN. Pretty immature of him if you ask me. The ambassador is still a poop head tho'.
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Old 20-12-2005, 12:09 PM   #16
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Intersting discussion is for you a few guys bashing a country?
You will hear my reply later today then, the same level and politeness as you lot finding another opportunity to attack the USA.
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Old 20-12-2005, 04:38 PM   #17
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I dont' think anyone is bashing USA, but their goverment, what's so wrong with that?? I mean most of us bash our own governmnets...
If we don't agree with US political stance, it doesn't mean we're bashing...(at least since you asked this topic to be closed)
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Old 20-12-2005, 06:25 PM   #18
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Because the Americans grown with the impression that everything belong to them, and that everything is best made American... But that's a bold lie and a bold illusion. That's the "American dream" in a way, but it's also a big illusion.
Yes, look at the softwood lumber dispute for an example. Now we Canadians get screwed for it.
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Old 20-12-2005, 08:08 PM   #19
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Wow, I'm sensing alot of babies here.
Perhaps we should put you to bed and beat the media saturated and social banality out of your skulls with a meat tenderizer?
Or perhaps you would like to be more civil and stop your... say... prejudice and idiotic behavoir.

Seriously, some of you are like little kids, this is no better than the PSP >>>>> DS thread, and even in that people seem to behave like adults.

There doesn't seem to be as much government bashing here as there is people bashing.

Seriously, some of you have crossed the line, this is downright offensive, racist, (Americans are always jealous! Stupid them) and it defies that certain little agreement placed in there that I'm sure NONE of you read when you joined these forums.
So excuse me, while I abide the rules, and not dig up the insufferable dirt on your countries and tell you all that "Look, it's all the same, go home and shut up".


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Old 20-12-2005, 08:19 PM   #20
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Seriously, some of you have crossed the line, this is downright offensive, racist, (Americans are always jealous! Stupid them) and it defies that certain little agreement placed in there that I'm sure NONE of you read when you joined these forums.
So excuse me, while I abide the rules, and not dig up the insufferable dirt on your countries and tell you all that "Look, it's all the same, go home and shut up".
There is nothing here that I consider offensive. none of this would offend me if it was said about the UK and I can't think of anyone who would be offended by it if it were their country. There are comments here critical of the American people but none of them are outright flames or insults. Feel free to continue everyone, and Pigggy, say whatever you like in the vein of what has been said already.

Oh, and I consider your post and your sulking attitude more childish than anything that has been said so far.
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