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[_r.u.s.s.]

stuff about quake and doom [/b]

doom has also better level design in my opinion.

[gregor]

i remember when i first got Quake demo in my hands. the game was not our yet then i believe. Anyway i was a bit disspaointed, since weapons animations were done much better on games prior to quake (like the ones made on Doom engine). i was hoping they will improve that with the game's release, but as i saw much later that didnt' happen.

As for level design - i relaly like to see design where levels make sense. where they represent something. They did in Doom 1 but Doom 2 - everyhting is too much surreal.

Hmm funny how they could make so much in Strife with those engines back then. I mean that game looks like some futuristic RPG.

Quake has some good levels. some look like castels. I think it could be better if only there was a generaly idea of what the game is supposed to be and in which period should it be happening. is it the future? the past? some imaginary world? well good thing they fixed that in Q2.

Yeah Unreal and Unreal Tournament are much better. Then again they also came much later.

[Titan]

Best gun from Quake: Nailgun
Best gun from Doom: BFG
Best gun from Doom II: Twin SG
Best gun from Unreal: Flak

Honestly, Doom rocked HARD when it came out... Doom 2 kicked some behinds.. Quake nailed the same behinds to the wall, and Unreal annihilated every behind on the planet when it was released.

Quake was was good when it was released, but was surpassed when Unreal was released, just in the same way Quake surpassed Doom.. ok? 2D sprites can't beat polygons graphicwise.
In regards to gameplay.. well, you just can't compare them.. imagen what Doom would have been with dynamic lights and hi-res textures?

[gregor]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Titan @ Feb 25 2007, 06:05 AM) [snapback]280851[/snapback]</div>

In regards to gameplay.. well, you just can't compare them.. imagen what Doom would have been with dynamic lights and hi-res textures?
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well i think jDoom make that imagination come true. and yeah, it rocks!!! it's liek playing a whole new game (even if it's plain old doom). but highres textures, dynamic lighting... mkae all the difference. zDoom also adds some sprites on wall (bullet holes, explosion residue) which also give the game a new experience.

anyway... DoomsdayHQ: http://www.doomsdayhq.com/


Supports Windows, Linux/Unix, and Mac OS X operating systems.
Hardware-accelerated 3D graphics (OpenGL and Direct3D) and sound effects (DirectSound3D).
16-player multiplayer over LAN or the internet.
Dynamic lighting and shadow effects.
3D models and particle effects.
Dynamic light effects and lens flares.
Simple shadows for objects.
Support for high-resolution textures and detail textures.
3D skyboxes.
Quake-style runtime console for modifying settings and giving commands.

[madmat]

One would have to mention the Amiga Version of Quake - which I found breathtaking.
It came out a year or so (dont nail me to that...) after the DOS version.
The Amiga ran it in 640x480 or even 800x600 thanks to full openGL support - though it was hard to find one who was capable of running the latter at decent speed back in the days.
However...mine was.
All the addons like Malice etc... worked perfectly, the Amiga port was a re-compiled exe, all the other files remained original (*.wad & *.map files...)



Like the last shake of a dead corpse or something.

And I played it... I remember a CU Amiga issue with a cover cd filled with Quake Addons - broadband internet wasn´t that common at that time.... so this came right in time.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Whereas the DOS Version was limited to 320x240 the Amiga ran it in 640x480 or even 800x600[/b]

I think your information is wrong.
I've got an unpatched copy of Quake running in 1024x768 under DOS.

[madmat]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Feb 26 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]281044[/snapback]</div>

I think your information is wrong.
I've got an unpatched copy of Quake running in 1024x768 under DOS.
[/b]

:blink:
really ?
well...maybe we were all dumb or limited other(hardware)wise, but i remember several of my friends stating exactly that,.
on my pentium 1 / 133 mhz with a s3 virge 3d it never made more than 320x240.

did you play it back then in that kind of resolution ?
well then i recall...and state the opposite.

[The Fifth Horseman]

I played it at 640x480 with a 1-meg graphics card (486DX4/100, 24 megs of RAM).

DosBox exmulates a 2MB S3 Trio v64+, IIRC, and it allows resolutions up to 1024x768.

According to the readme, any resolutions above 320x240 are dependant on the graphics card Quake detects - if your card was not recognized by the game, that might have happened.

[madmat]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Feb 26 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]281064[/snapback]</div>

According to the readme, any resolutions above 320x240 are dependant on the graphics card Quake detects - if your card was not recognized by the game, that might have happened.
[/b]

Alright, edited my post according to that, seems I was mistaken.
Thx !

[win98]

I have a real s3 trio 64v+ 2MB and I got it running at 1024x768 patched in dos.