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[Nosferrath]

CIV II is indeed the best game in the series. I just adore this game. Can't get enough of it !

Me, I prefer Civ III because of its complexity. Plus the fact that you *must* make war to get the raw materials you need (iron, rubber, oil). :Titan:

Civ 2 was fun, but the spy unit was a bit too strong: I never built any big nukes, I just loaded up transports full of spies. I shipped my spies to enemy coastal cities, infiltrate and plant nuclear device! Repeat that 4 or 5 times (every time the AI reacts by moving more units back into the empty city).

It was about the only way to fight a Fundamentalist power. They have too many units, so waging nuclear war through spies worked okay. Just don't ask about the pollution...

I was also dissappointed with civ 3. When it first came out, i expected it to be a huge, and i emaphisize huge, because i heard that civ 2 was a huge improvement to the original.

I liked the mandatory resources for units, but the wimpy part is that you only need one of each to support as many of the units as possible. (I build like like 50 swordmen out of an iron hill which unreasonable). also i miss the movies too and especially the funny advisor conflicts. Graphics were great, but I dont think they should have put a great deal of work in this part. The game was mostly played because of its addicting gameplay and i think the producers let us down (as I think someone said b4 me).

What i do like about civ 3 is that it adds leaders and when you have a stack of units and its another person's turn to attk, they destroy one of the units in that stack and the entire column is gone (or wait is that just a flaw in civ 2?).

I would rate civ 2 5/5 for its time, but civ 3 4/5 for its time since it still adds some new concepts but not as much as you would expect from a sequel.

[Christian IV]

:blink: :bye:
Hello Experienced Civ II masters, I need some timely
assistance if possible. I have been assembling resources
for Civ II and have found there are remarkable mods and
scenarios available. Can you tell me where to put these
files and how to use them in a game? I did find MOD managers
available, but would like to know how to install and play
using a single senario or MOD if possible. Any help would
be much appreciated. Thsi simply an amazing game, and
series of games.!!

Thank you in advance for any help :bye:

[Tulac]

I'm not sure If I remember it correctly, but if scenario uses civ2 default graphics and rules(meaning it's not a mod), you can just copy that scenario to the folder where scenarios are kept, and you just load them from the game like those scenarios that already came with Civ2...
If you wat to use a mod then, you have to replace files which you got with the mod(mostly civ2.ini, and some .jpg pictures were unit and city graphics are kept), but be sure to safely backup those files somewhere, or you'll be using that mod rules forever...

Also if you want to make your own maps, you can do it by entering the cheat mode, where you can edit the whole world, you can also tamper with civ2.ini file where you can modify a lot of parameters that affect rules(like unit strength, defence etc.), and in the end for the ultimate modding you can make your own graphics, it's not that hard, but modding in Civ3 is much less complicated...

[Christian IV]

:bye: :bye:
Thanks a million Tulac, much apprecaited, that was just the
sort of indication i needed, i have used mods woth other
games, but not with Civ, and there are such interesting ones,
and great scenarios from all sorts of historic periods which
interest me, actually the scenario library makes a living history
laboratory all by itself!! What an amazing game. I hear there is
a Civ IV in development with many new technologies, new buildings,
units, and even wonder movies coming back......
and hear good things about Civ III, and some people love Civ I for
its special style: I have not had a chance to try Civ II
but the graphics and images are so intriguing. I am still doing
research and have not had a chance to actualy play the game yet,
I like to prepare and get everything in place first. Thanks so much
for your help and suggestions.

I will be sure to keep master copies of the main files, yes indeed.
I noted that there appear to be four versions of Civ II, the classic or
original, then what appears to be called FW or Fantastic Worlds, Test of
Time and Gold Version. I am assuming that if you have Gold Version,
the scenarios will play for it that also play for FW and TOT, am i wrong?
I did see that there are patches that update a basic game to Gold, but
can one go backwards, and down size the game to earlier versions from Gold
that you know of? I am glad we have the Gold version on the site. I did
see that the Gold version requires that the player have a Civ CD in the
CD drive to play the game, but found a patch that bypasses this requirement.
Do you know if our Admins loaded the patch already? I can look for it
later but just wondered if you or anyone reading this know about this. :blink:

What are the maps i see availble used for,can they be used for
making new scenarios, or are they created for use in the regular
game and can they be selected by menu?

It will be fun to try the edit and creation features, but AFTER i get
somewhat competent with the game. :bye:

Thanks so much for your help. I found a great library of files on this and
both other Civs, I and III at civilization fanatics site, including a full manual
for Civ II if anyone needs one. Hope it is ok to mention this in the forum,
but i noted someone was looking for a manual i think.

Thanks agian for your help , i am reassured and hoepful of being able to
enter into this remarkalble game soon.
k:

[Tulac]

Originally posted by Christian IV@May 7 2005, 04:11 PM
I will be sure to keep master copies of the main files, yes indeed.
I noted that there appear to be four versions of Civ II, the classic or
original, then what appears to be called FW or Fantastic Worlds, Test of
Time and Gold Version. I am assuming that if you have Gold Version,
the scenarios will play for it that also play for FW and TOT, am i wrong?
I did see that there are patches that update a basic game to Gold, but
can one go backwards, and down size the game to earlier versions from Gold
that you know of? I am glad we have the Gold version on the site. I did
see that the Gold version requires that the player have a Civ CD in the
CD drive to play the game, but found a patch that bypasses this requirement.
Do you know if our Admins loaded the patch already? I can look for it
later but just wondered if you or anyone reading this know about this. :blink:

Well I think that FW and ToT are not included in the gold version(not sure though) because if it's the same as those patches from civfanatics than I'm sure it hasn't.
You see I had normal Civ2 and upgraded it to gold, it was the same as normal Civ2 but with multiplayer , which includes hot seat too, maybe it has other stuff that I don't remember(I played it last 3-4 years ago)...
I think that for running Civ2 gold from abandonia you don't need anykind of CD, because that Multiplayer Gold Edition patch from civfanatics is useful only to those people that have the civ2 normal version, and it would would be logical that for abandonia version is already standalone...

What are the maps i see availble used for,can they be used for
making new scenarios, or are they created for use in the regular
game and can they be selected by menu?

The maps that you already have, you can use them to play a normal game, OR you can edit them in Civ2 cheat mode...
More answers are on Civfanatics.com where I too found out all this stuff, and I recommend that site for every fan of Civ I,II,III and the upcoming IV...

[Christian IV]

k: k:
Thanks Tulac, immensly, very helpful ......
I will dig in to the universe of Civ...what amazing
possibliites. Much appreciated indeed.

I like your avatar BTW. great colors.......

k:

Greetings.

First there was CivII
Then CivII Fantastic Worlds
Then CivII Multiplayer Gold Edition (which in Europe was just called CivII Gold)
Then they made a upgraded CivII with Test of Time.

Fantastic Worlds in contained within CivII Multiplayer Gold Edition. Nothing from any versions of CivII is compatible with the ToT version, as it is the latest in the II series.

Apolyton.net is a better CivII site than Civfanatics, IMHO.

Diety level is not impossible to beat. There are master players on Apolyton that win the game by spaceship victory in like 1,000 AD. These players are mathematical and precise. There are also other players who win the game (spaceship victory) by only having one city throughout the entire game!

I am an old community member of CivII and there are a zillion really well done scenarios with gorgeous artwork and well put together historical references. Some of my favourites were in the WWII era. Do a web search for "CivII Captain Nemo" and you will be in awe of what Civilization II can do.

[Doc Adrian]

They also had Historys greatest battles, the fantastic worlds and greatest battles combined to make Civ Gold.

My favorite Scenario has to be the World War 1978 one.