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Old 15-09-2011, 01:24 PM   #21
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Do you know the IP address of weather.com by heart? Eh? Case closed. :P
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Old 15-09-2011, 04:25 PM   #22
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Do you know the IP address of weather.com by heart? Eh? Case closed. :P
All he needs to know is how to get it... whois is your friend.
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Old 16-09-2011, 07:48 AM   #23
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Do you know the IP address of weather.com by heart? Eh? Case closed. :P

I guess someone had to invent the Internet and defend it against the dinosaurs and the Huns...
And the FRENCH!!
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Old 16-09-2011, 10:06 PM   #24
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Let's look at this sober and with out any hysteria:

E.S.A. HAS acted up on Abandonia... TWICE, and we're still here. We conformed and they where HAPPY with the actions we took.
I was one of the three that was here when the letter arrived (Kosta and Tom Henrik was the others).
The legal department was actually most helpful, extended the deadline and helped us digging out who owned what rights now.
They are humans also, and trust me on this, it's easier for them to just send a letter and ask us to conform, then going to court to have a specific provider block out a specific IP.

The servers are NOT located in thew USA. To see a good example of this, http://thepiratebay.org/ - Started out as a swedish site. Pissed off most of the worldwide entertainment industry, was attempted to get knocked off the net, but it's still up and running.
Now THEY cost a lot of money in lost incomes, and will be subject to the ESA to shut out of the US of A.

Abandonia conforms to the Digital Millenium Act, and is thereby a bit more "off the radar".
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Old 28-10-2011, 08:27 AM   #25
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US seems to be insistent on inflicting this particular brand of madness on their citizens.

After: http://act.demandprogress.org/letter..._jvGQ&rd=1&t=2
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REP. ZOE LOFGREN CALLS BILL "THE END OF THE INTERNET"

It's alive! And it's a nightmare.

The rumors were true: The new Blacklist Bill could effectively destroy YouTube, Twitter, and other sites that rely on user-generated content by making the sites' owners legally responsible for content their users post.

It also includes provisions that would make it a felony to stream unlicensed content -- including cover band performances, karaoke videos, video game play-throughs, and more.

It's a grab-bag of Halloween goodies for a handful of big corporations -- but for us it's Frankenstein's monster, cobbled together from half-born bills, set to suffocate free speech and innovation and terrorize consumers and Internet users.
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Old 28-10-2011, 05:37 PM   #26
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They will simply chase the big sites out of the US. Canada may be chilly, but guess what: it's free, and the cops don't shoot you for Looking At Them In A Funny Way.
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"Cobbled together from half-born bills..." LOL. They will never give up until they slip it past the voters, one country after another.
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Old 01-11-2011, 05:23 AM   #28
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US seems to be insistent on inflicting this particular brand of madness on their citizens.

After: http://act.demandprogress.org/letter..._jvGQ&rd=1&t=2
Yes, the original bills COICA & PROTECT IP have been twice held up in the Senate by Senator Ron Wyden.

So, now its been raised in Congress after being rename "SOPA".

It's basically the same bill only with even more overbroad wording, plus they slipped in parts of the Streaming Criminalization Bill S.978

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They will simply chase the big sites out of the US. Canada may be chilly, but guess what: it's free, and the cops don't shoot you for Looking At Them In A Funny Way.
The whole point of this law is to block off access to all "Foreign Sites", which are beyond the reach of US Copyright Law.

They want mass IP Blocking + Search Result Censoring powers to use on offshore Websites by all US ISP & Search Providers.

Also the power to issue injunctions to US Payment Processing Companies (PayPal, etc...), to stop all money going to those sites.

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Apparently, websites that offer ways or tools to bypass blocks are also to be blocked off...

Websites in the USA are already vulnerable to being seized under current laws (see Operation In Our Sites).

However these new powers would also no doubt be used against domestic sites as well...

Edited on 02/11/11
This may turn out bigger then I thought...

Considering the "Shoot first, ask questions later" attitude of the Copyright Industry, they could well try to make Internet in the USA into their own private Intranet...

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Old 29-11-2011, 01:29 AM   #29
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GOG Comments on the bill, as well as piracy in general.

http://www.destructoid.com/good-old-...s-216348.phtml

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However, a lot of the abandonware websites (sites that take a curatorial view of their downloads, saying that they're preserving these games from the ash heap of history) that have games that GOG doesn't sell yet could certainly find themselves in a bad situation. Anyone who advertises on these websites could also find themselves in a certain amount of hot water, which will cause the abandonware sites problems even if they aren't directly targeted for blacklisting. Advertisers will leave in droves.
So considering how carefully the games get picked on for the site these days, there probably wont be any problems. If the advertisers go however, that could cause some serious problems. They're the lifeblood of the site and I dont think AB can live by donations alone, especially with the drought of new content.

I hope you people who mass-pirate the hell out of everything take a good look at yourself. Because of people like you were all in this fine mess.
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Old 29-11-2011, 03:48 AM   #30
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I hope you people who mass-pirate the hell out of everything take a good look at yourself. Because of people like you were all in this fine mess.
That is just crud Chosen, pirating has been around in droves since people first made a music CD or game. The only people to blame for this are the large companies pushing the idea that they are going broke from all the pirates stealing their products. Piracy is the current scapegoat for most game makers, bad sales has nothing to do with them having a bad product oh no it is all cause the pirates stole it.

This bill is also American only, if the server or advertiser is not in America they can barely be touched by this. Not to mention that advertisers can always play the "We didn't know what the site hosted." card and get off scott free. That is even if this bill passes.

Let's not forget every game downloaded from this site is piracy, we have this nice term Adandonware and morals about what we host but none of that is legal. So before you get all pirates are evil, you are one too at least to the people who are pushing this bill.
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