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Old 04-08-2013, 03:09 PM   #31
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Spectre's right about power features. But actually for that kind of thing there's PowerShell (which is an optional Windows update):
http://www.microsoft.com/powershell
I prefer Total Commander. It allows me to do the most of the same operations but more user-friendly. Question was - if windows can do it natively (even if I have no idea, why .
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Windows 8 for PC is different from the mobile version--actually it includes that (apps and tile start menu) on top of a normal 6.x Windows. The only difference is the tile start menu, which IMO is a big usability improvement over the traditional cascade one (and that you can run "Win RT" apps, as well as normal Windows desktop programs).
Unfortunately, it's also tied with Windows' "security" system, when you cannot manipulate disk C, get files from net to desktop, run "non-authorised" files and so on. Annoying thing. I know what I want, I don't need safety net!

Unfortunately, if I'll disable this safeguard, "tiled" apps disabled too. Funny, eh?
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The tiles are just shortcuts located in the same exact paths as the start menu shortcuts in previous Windows versions. Both apps and desktop programs create tiles, the latter when they would create start menu shortcuts in previous versions. Of course in mobile Win8 it's different, but so's in Android or iOS.
I know, Japo. Problem is, I am usually need to know where file is located, and tiles is one level above links/shortcuts! So in desktop environment I am opening file properties and see the path. Now I am clicking, selecting "location" in different menu (no floating menu, eh?), and see... location of link. Oh, great. Tiles? Not for me, thank you.
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Old 05-08-2013, 02:10 PM   #32
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I prefer Total Commander. It allows me to do the most of the same operations but more user-friendly. Question was - if windows can do it natively (even if I have no idea, why .

Unfortunately, it's also tied with Windows' "security" system, when you cannot manipulate disk C, get files from net to desktop, run "non-authorised" files and so on. Annoying thing. I know what I want, I don't need safety net!

Unfortunately, if I'll disable this safeguard, "tiled" apps disabled too. Funny, eh?

I know, Japo. Problem is, I am usually need to know where file is located, and tiles is one level above links/shortcuts! So in desktop environment I am opening file properties and see the path. Now I am clicking, selecting "location" in different menu (no floating menu, eh?), and see... location of link. Oh, great. Tiles? Not for me, thank you.


I read all opinions, concerning W 8.
Well, i have many friends who using Windows every days.
No one of them, even my PC service specialist use this W 8.
I do not care about mobile devices at all.
The history tells me:
- Win 98 - shit
- Win XP - good
- Win Vista - shit
- Win 7 - good
- Win 8 - shit
- Win 9 - good?
OK, i will wait for W 9, following above logics.
My both W7 - Pro and Ultimate served me well.
(I have XP at both machines also - natural and virtual for bad days - )
PC 1 - 7 Pro + XP Pro virtual - Index - 5.9 from 7.9
PC 2 - 7 Ulti + XP Pro natural (what an epithet- ha ha) Index 2.8 from 7.9

I think the best Windows is Linux Mandriva.
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:51 PM   #33
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- Win 98 - shit
I thought it was:

- Win 95 - shit
- Win 98 - good (especially SE)
- Win ME - shit

What about Win 3.1?


From what I gathered they're adding things I don't want while removing/skipping features I'd use. PowerShell is not the answer to my needs.
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:27 AM   #34
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Win 3.11 was great. The staple of its time. It started it all too.

Never been a great platform for gaming though. DOS was way better back then.
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Old 06-08-2013, 04:02 AM   #35
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My both W7 - Pro and Ultimate served me well.
Here you are right. Win7 is better than Win8.

I would buy it upgrading my good old WinXP, if not fact that Win7 is four times more expensive than Win8. Too much.

I can live with Win8 too. Fortunately, I never was a fan of fancy wallpapers, transparent menues, etc. But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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I think the best Windows is Linux Mandriva.
And here you are wrong.
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Here you are right. Win7 is better than Win8.

I would buy it upgrading my good old WinXP, if not fact that Win7 is four times more expensive than Win8. Too much.

I can live with Win8 too. Fortunately, I never was a fan of fancy wallpapers, transparent menues, etc. But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

And here you are wrong.

-Нуте-ка, нуте-ка, Mr. SS,
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Do You know the words Schutz Staffel or Protection Squadron?
Of course i am kidding.

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Do You think that Windows is better than Linux?
I will disagree with You.
But i do not want to start dispute of type:
- Who is the first? The egg or the hen?
Some good man from Spain, he is member of AB staff and his name is not Japo, thinks that the egg is the first..
ha ha ha
or
- How many devils can stand on the needle point?
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I will disagree with You.
Na-ah, you missed initial message. I think that Windows is better Windows than anything existing. By default.

Well, if there was emulator good enough to emulate all existing windowses and doses up to all games support - it would be best windows. But as Virtual Machines pretty close to it now - and they are exist on Windows - seems Windows win here too.
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Na-ah, you missed initial message. I think that Windows is better Windows than anything existing. By default.

Well, if there was emulator good enough to emulate all existing windowses and doses up to all games support - it would be best windows. But as Virtual Machines pretty close to it now - and they are exist on Windows - seems Windows win here too.

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But, with all my respect to You, You speak as Jesuit, these fanatical followers of Father
Ignatius of Loyola.
ha ha ha

Can You tell me pls how many updates and patches has Yr favorite XP?
Million or Billions?
Linux? No any..
But this is another theme and pls see my post above about egg, hen and devils..

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Can You tell me pls how many updates and patches has Yr favorite XP?
Million or Billions?
Linux? No any..
1. Yoga, I think, you missed whole point. I don't argue what system is the best. It's matter of opinion anyway. I am arguing what system is better Windows. And only possible answer could be "The system that emulate any MS Windows OS best of all". And obvious winner here is Windows itself. By definition.

Coming to your beloved hens, question is not "Who is the best flier among the birds". Question is "Who is the best hen among the birds". And answer is, obviously, hen!

2. Yoga, I doubt that such thing as "error-free program" is exist at all. And even if it would exist, I doubt that universal driver that support any type of hardware exist too. So your claim essentially means "Linux is old obsolete crap that infested with bugs and don't support any modern hardware, but we feel it perfect!"

Fortunately, you are not right. Looking on any source (for example, Wikipedia for exactly Linux kernel) we'll see that Linux have constant flow of updates - exactly like any Windows. And if you'll look somewhat higher, you'll see that, unlike Windows, Torvalds even doesn't feel in mood to announce security breaches that he fixed. Leaving aside reasons of this decision, I can say that it's exactly the same "billions of updates". If you didn't see them, well, too bad. They are exist anyway.
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