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Old 21-08-2006, 03:18 AM   #71
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Darwinist answer to why sex is pleasurable: Human children need so much care during their early life that some mechanism is needed to ensure that both parents stick around to keep the little brats alive.
As far as I know (but I can be wrong), humans and dolphins are the only animals having pleasure with sex, while for the others is just some kind of instinct, but many other races keep care their brats.

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While most higher vertebrates provide minimal nurturing, few animals need as much love and attention as a human child. It can take a year for a child to walk. Compared to most other mammals, that is nearly forever. Human children still need lots of help; until they are nine or ten years old. True, we do live for a long time, but we spend alot of time learning to fend for ourselves. Compared to adults, human children are rather helpless, right up to adolescence, and it takes years to get that old. Most other animals are finished all of the parental duties in the span of a summer, and those duties are nowhere near as complex as raising a human child.

It is not that other animals do not look after their young at all, but that they do not have to do it for anywhere near as long.

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Old 21-08-2006, 10:36 AM   #72
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Quintopotere @ Aug 20 2006, 08:11 AM) [snapback]249711[/snapback]
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Darwinist answer to why sex is pleasurable: Human children need so much care during their early life that some mechanism is needed to ensure that both parents stick around to keep the little brats alive.
As far as I know (but I can be wrong), humans and dolphins are the only animals having pleasure with sex, while for the others is just some kind of instinct, but many other races keep care their brats.

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While most higher vertebrates provide minimal nurturing, few animals need as much love and attention as a human child. It can take a year for a child to walk. Compared to most other mammals, that is nearly forever. Human children still need lots of help; until they are nine or ten years old. True, we do live for a long time, but we spend alot of time learning to fend for ourselves. Compared to adults, human children are rather helpless, right up to adolescence, and it takes years to get that old. Most other animals are finished all of the parental duties in the span of a summer, and those duties are nowhere near as complex as raising a human child.

It is not that other animals do not look after their young at all, but that they do not have to do it for anywhere near as long.
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Yeah, human children take months or years to learn to do things such as walk or feed themselves. Most animals start walking literally minutes after birth.

It's because humans are born at a lower state of development than most animals. So they have to develop to the point at which they can walk outside of the womb, while animals reach that stage before birth.
This is because humans' pelvises are smaller, so we can walk on two legs, and this limits the size of the child to a very underdeveloped one that needs years of care. We evolved to walk to two legs so the hands can be used for using tools etc.

Oh, and that bit about only humans and dolphins enjoying sex is rubbish. Why would other animals do it if they didn't get enjoyment from it?
However, they are one of only a few species which have sex purely for fun (along which several different times of monkey).
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Old 21-08-2006, 11:25 AM   #73
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do you mean sex WITH dolphins? boy, oh, boy!
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Why would other animals do it if they didn't get enjoyment from it?
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Maybe just instinct and nature rules?

But we are going really off topic, and I admit that's caused also by me
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