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View Poll Results: Is Apogee lying?
1. Yes, they are doing it on purpose 2 22.22%
2. Yes, they are just mistaken 0 0%
3. No, they really own the copyrights 3 33.33%
4. There must be another explanation for that 4 44.44%
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Old 31-03-2006, 02:10 PM   #1
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When I was collecting information on the subject of Zombie Wars, something very interesting popped up:

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Originally posted by John Passfield+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (John Passfield)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I made sure that I was personally assigned the rights to a number of IPs that I helped create over time including Halloween Harry, Flight of the Amazon Queen, Mystery Club, Jaruu Tenk, Shadow Town, etc.[/b]

This would imply that Apogee HAS NO RIGHTS to the game (and thus by extension that we might actually place it back up for download)

<!--QuoteBegin-www.3drealms.com

NOTE: This game is discontinued, and is not currently available.
Apogee Software, Ltd. retains copyright on this title.
The information here is provided only for historical purposes.
No support is given on this title.
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But in another part of their site, Apogee claims to retain the copyrights to the title...

Now... is it that the poor guy is just deluded, or is Apogee lying and usurping themselves the ownership of a copyright that in fact does not belong to them anymore?

What do you think?
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Old 31-03-2006, 04:55 PM   #2
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maybe they both own copyrights :blink:

Corporation is always right! They always win. They have a bunch of lawyers to confirm it
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Old 31-03-2006, 05:04 PM   #3
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Copywhat??? :blink: LOL

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Old 01-04-2006, 05:30 PM   #4
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Interesting...

Maybe you should contact 3D Realms and ask.
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Old 01-04-2006, 06:44 PM   #5
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It is possible that they both own part of the rights to these games. It is unlikely that John Passfield would recieve full and exclusive rights to games he himself claims only to have helped create.

I do not know the extend to which these rights are limited myself though.
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Old 01-04-2006, 07:49 PM   #6
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Confusion ahoy.
Situations like these are extremely common. But not exactly in the gaming world, the only direct way to find out would probably be to e-mail them.
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Old 01-04-2006, 11:46 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Blood-Pigggy@Apr 1 2006, 07:49 PM
Confusion ahoy.
Situations like these are extremely common. But not exactly in the gaming world, the only direct way to find out would probably be to e-mail them.
Which I'm guessing will get a blanket responce from their legal department:

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Old 01-04-2006, 11:50 PM   #8
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Not really.
90% of the time you get a detailed response, especially since people are never interested in those aspects of the company.
I did it to enquire on the rights of Terra Nova a year or two ago (it was still held back then, but now it's drifted away, ESA is still protecting it tho).
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Old 06-04-2006, 12:52 PM   #9
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it has to be detailed response in case of copyright lawsuit. and they have to be very carefull what they say there. so they would rather explain it all instead of just saying "no go!".
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