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Old 04-02-2006, 10:35 PM   #11
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I'm not going to change again unless there is some real evidence of it's superiority... And even then, I don't think it's safe to trust Microsoft...
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Old 04-02-2006, 11:06 PM   #12
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There's no way I'll ever use some version of Internet Explorer again. It was like the main reason I had so much problems with my computer back then (and probably the fact I was so bloody unexperienced with PCs in common back then ^^).

Even if they rip like every feature from Opera/Mozilla/Firefox/whatever (I don't really care who invented a feature first, cause it's like totally not important, but some people around here really seem to be very fussy about such things ) I'll surely never use IE again.

Oh yeah, before I forget: Go Opera :P
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Old 05-02-2006, 09:10 AM   #13
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AIEE! C'EST behind-UGLIE!

Why the hell am I screaming in French?

Anywho.

behind-ugly IE7. Just as i always said..
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:29 AM   #14
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Well I'm going to see if MS have made a good web browser.. or if it's still crappy like the old versions :P
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Old 06-02-2006, 12:12 AM   #15
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Well I'm going to see if MS have made a good web browser.. or if it's still crappy like the old versions :P
Hold on now, IE 4 - 6 were by far the best browsers available when they were released. Back then Netscape was a giant, buggy, monolithic steaming pile of kludge; and KHTML (what Konqueror and Safari are based on) had only just appeared before the release of IE 6 (and it was quite bad). Opera was around, but since it couldn't handle the majority of the sites on the web it wasn't very useful, either.

IE (without speaking for the as-yet-unreleased 7-final) has, since v4, always been ahead of the curve in standards support and been much faster and less memory intensive than any other available browser. Much of IE's strange handling of things actually results from the fact that they implemented things like CSS and the the DOM long before the standards were actually finalized.

People call IE 6 crappy because they're evaluating it now rather than when it was actually released. For a browser that was released half a decade ago it holds up remarkably well. I mean, really, would you rather use IE 6 or Netscape 4.7x?
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Old 06-02-2006, 05:10 AM   #16
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Originally posted by plix+Feb 6 2006, 02:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (plix @ Feb 6 2006, 02:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-chickenman@Feb 5 2006, 06:29 AM
Well I'm going to see if MS have made a good web browser.. or if it's still crappy like the old versions :P
Hold on now, IE 4 - 6 were by far the best browsers available when they were released. Back then Netscape was a giant, buggy, monolithic steaming pile of kludge; and KHTML (what Konqueror and Safari are based on) had only just appeared before the release of IE 6 (and it was quite bad). Opera was around, but since it couldn't handle the majority of the sites on the web it wasn't very useful, either.

IE (without speaking for the as-yet-unreleased 7-final) has, since v4, always been ahead of the curve in standards support and been much faster and less memory intensive than any other available browser. Much of IE's strange handling of things actually results from the fact that they implemented things like CSS and the the DOM long before the standards were actually finalized.

People call IE 6 crappy because they're evaluating it now rather than when it was actually released. For a browser that was released half a decade ago it holds up remarkably well. I mean, really, would you rather use IE 6 or Netscape 4.7x? [/b][/quote]
Your probably right (wait, your surely right), but as much as I would rather user IE6 instead of Netscape 4.7x (which I tried back then, I'm still like "OMG, it's slow").
But that doesn't change the fact that IE messed itself and my computer totally up.
The main reason I got Opera back then, was that IE wasn't functioning anymore at all.
Oh, and I know if your really know what you're doing, IE CAN be safe. Sadly, I was not back then, and the majority of people using the internet today sadly isn't either.
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Old 06-02-2006, 06:12 AM   #17
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The main reason I got Opera back then, was that IE wasn't functioning anymore at all.
Oh, and I know if your really know what you're doing, IE CAN be safe. Sadly, I was not back then, and the majority of people using the internet today sadly isn't either.
Oh, don't get me wrong: I've been a Mozilla Suite user (now SeaMonkey) since the pre-release milestone days (M17 or so) and I've never looked back. Opera and the KHTML family are all fine browsers, too. However, I think credit should be given where credit's due and IE was a major catalyst in moving the web forward (remember that XMLHttpRequest was a Microsoft invention).
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Old 06-02-2006, 08:13 AM   #18
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And here we come to the problem IE7 was supposed to get out 2-3 years ago, when the first IE shells appeared with advanced functions (tabbed browsing, pop-up blocker)...
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Old 06-02-2006, 08:57 AM   #19
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hmmm when I was messing around with some JavaScript I got this from IE 7:
CodeName: Mozilla
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Originally posted by chickenman@Feb 6 2006, 04:57 AM
hmmm when I was messing around with some JavaScript I got this from IE 7:
CodeName: Mozilla
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IE has always identified itself with Mozilla in the UserAgent string.
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