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Old 01-06-2010, 08:16 AM   #11
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Aha, I see.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:32 AM   #12
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Just my five cents, but...

First, Wickis removed solution is not only dangerous, but utterly pointless. Don't mean to sound rude, but who in their right mind would use a 2-6 GB hibernation file as a snapshot for a game? Saves were invented for a reason, to like.. save your game. Save states in emulators are a nice gimmick, and possible because consoles fundamentally function differently from a PC. End of story.

As Fifth pointed out, the VPC solution is viable, but not very user friendly. Since you had to fight the exact same problems with older games you would in a real W98 environment. And using XP leads you back to square one. If that old game doesn't offer saving, then there's a password, or the game was meant to be played in one session, so tough it up. Creating VPC snapshots to "save state" in a 2 MB game doesn't seem really worth the time for me. But that's just IMO.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:34 AM   #13
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I really have to agree with Hun, it's a really cool idea, but I think I will stick with the in game options.
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There might be a memory editor that allows dumping the contents of a processes' RAM to a file and loading them back. Probably.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:35 PM   #15
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As Fifth pointed out, the VPC solution is viable, but not very user friendly. Since you had to fight the exact same problems with older games you would in a real W98 environment. And using XP leads you back to square one. If that old game doesn't offer saving, then there's a password, or the game was meant to be played in one session, so tough it up. Creating VPC snapshots to "save state" in a 2 MB game doesn't seem really worth the time for me. But that's just IMO.
Well, I haven't used other virtual machines so far and I have to say I'm pretty happy with Virtual PC.

I believe other virtual machines are a better choice for testing operating systems, since they support more features (like shared folder, USB drives, etc.). But for playing and saving old school games - Virtual PC gets the job done just fine.

It has a minimalistic user interface, which is very easy to use. After you hide the menu bars, it's basically like playing a game in a windowed mode. When you close the window the game saves. Which is all you need.

As for the need for saving the game's state - it can be very important in my opinion. This trick can come in handy when playing long games (like Amazing Spiderman), which are nearly impossible to complete otherwise. Furthermore, you can save a particular mission in a game with non-linear story line (like GTA1) and test different outcomes.

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Old 03-06-2010, 10:10 AM   #16
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I've got a question
Will majority of the games found on Abandonia work on Windows 95?
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:32 AM   #17
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Why don't you try those you want to play on W95?
Some will, some won't, for some you will have to reboot in dosmode....

But if dosgaming is your goal in VPC why don't you install MsDos in VPC?
Works fine (ahwell, it's not as flexible/compatible as dosbox, but if you want savestates ...)
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Old 03-06-2010, 12:20 PM   #18
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Why don't you try those you want to play on W95?
But if dosgaming is your goal in VPC why don't you install MsDos in VPC?
Good idea! But I don't know how to use MsDos ...

Does it recognize CDs? How and where do you copy the game files?
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Does it recognize CDs?
Of course, if you install the CD drivers ..... *sigh*
Or in VPC simply install the MsDos addons, but those are not included in VPC2007, you can get the floppy image from VPC2004, they work fine in VPC2007/MsDos.
Some pluspoints of th MsDos addons:
-> adds CD access
-> adds better S3 graphs
-> adds mouse support
-> adds SB 16 ISA support.( IRQ 5! )

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Good idea! But I don't know how to use MsDos ...
<- this one runs away, I'm outta of here, if you want something: LEARN, there are enough full featured tuto sites for MsDos on TeH intehnet.
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:02 PM   #20
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MsDOS is a very simple, and powerful, operating system. If we still ran it on the computers we have today - blame Bill Gates - said computers would be fricking awesomely fast. Possibly mainly due to the absence of Outlook. It's the difference between SQL and MS Access. Access is designed to be pretty and showy and easy, but if you want versatility and power and simplicity, SQL's yr man.

If you want to learn MsDOS, be prepared to learn from scratch. I personally don't miss DOS much, but once you know the syntax you're fine. Don't ask for general help. It's like saying, wow, what a nice set of Encyclopedias. What's in all of them? You may just get a boot to the head. If you want to do stuff the fancy way, be prepared to do your own donkey-work. Simple and suited to your needs is the best option, always. Occam's razor's sharp - you don't wanna cut yourself.
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