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Old 20-07-2005, 12:21 PM   #11
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here it is* :whistle:
I pity them. Actually I pity every software programmer. Don't they ever heard of cracks? :angel:
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Old 20-07-2005, 12:34 PM   #12
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it appears winzip was purchased by a company called Vector Capital, and they intend to change "the rules for using it". in other words, they want users to start paying for it. in that case, self extracting files could be one solution.
As said: there are more programs then WinZIP that can open a ZIP archive. 7-zip, Freezip, XP has it's own. Linux users can also handle these, the self-executables would post a problem for them.

In Conclusion: I am against self-extacting archives!
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Old 20-07-2005, 02:22 PM   #13
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The self-extracting archives can be renamed to their native ZIP/RAR/7Z extension and from there opened with an extraction program by the user.
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Old 26-07-2005, 06:27 PM   #14
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As said: there are more programs then WinZIP that can open a ZIP archive. 7-zip, Freezip, XP has it's own. Linux users can also handle these, the self-executables would post a problem for them.

In Conclusion: I am against self-extacting archives!
No one ever mentions the Mac Users ...

I know that ZIP normally works with a MAC aswell but the EXE renamed to ZIP wouldn't be too clear for every user to know ...

So keep them as ZIP and all's well ... Those files are most compatible.
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Old 28-07-2005, 02:30 AM   #15
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I'm a noobie I guess, cause zips drive me insane! I hate them!

self-extracting zips sounds like an awesome idea (would save me 7 hours of work a week)

But I know how much work Data would have to put in to do that......maybe we should start a repacking team.
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Old 28-07-2005, 06:26 AM   #16
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To be quite honest, I don't really see what's so complicated about zip files. If you're running XP, you even have a built-in zip program - which isn't too good, but you can always get something like WinRar. If self-extracting archives would only cause additional work and might cause problems for those people who don't use Windows, why have them? If it's working, don't fix it, right?
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Old 28-07-2005, 01:27 PM   #17
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I agree. Even the most retarded PC user should be able to figure out how to unzip an archive, and if he doesn't... well, he shouldn't be sitting in front of a computer to begin with.
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Old 28-07-2005, 01:57 PM   #18
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I know how to unzip an archive, geez. Its just that all the games that come with this site have several zips within the zips which is really annoying. The files inside are confusing.

The files look like this:

SR2_Install
SR2_Start
SR2_Play Game
SR2_copywrite1989

You see? arg!

So you have to sort of experiment by sticking random files inside of dosbox. Before I do that, I have to go gallavanting inside my c:/ drive for half an hour looking for dosbox, because if I put a shorcut on my desktop it doesnt work.

Then when I stick the files inside dosbox, I get some kind of phony installation routine which claims that "installation is done" and so forth.

I then go to the "play game" screen. The option screen comes up. I fiddle with the sound for an hour or two, trying to see what will be compatible with this game. When I finally get the options right, I click playgame and the game says "blablablaerrorerrorcouldnt work blablabla call microsoft if you need any help"
or the game just freezes.

AND I AM SICK OF MOVING AROUND STUPID ZIP FILES AND SO FORTH!
When I open my zip program, I am bombarded by about 6 advertisements and update alerts, which I kindly but firmly decline. It takes forever to do anything on my computer! :ranting:

Now stop calling me a retarded because I can't play any of the friggin games on this website! My computer is too complicated to support them. This isnt just for dos games, its also for pretty much every other program I download.

So thats why I want simple, easy, no fuss self extracting archives!
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Old 28-07-2005, 02:10 PM   #19
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Nobody called you retarded, Indi. You tend to take offence far too easily, if I may say so...
So far I've never encountered an archive which contained several other archives, but maybe I've just been downloading the wrong games. Anyway, why would you need to move zip files around? Simply unzipping them to the right folder should do the trick, right?
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Uhm... excuse me? What do you mean with "every game is in several zips"?! :blink:

That should not be the case on any of our games. If you have found some archives like that, please let me know.
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