Go Back   Forums > Abandonia.com > Troubleshooting
Memberlist Forum Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Search Forums:
Click here to use Advanced Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-02-2011, 06:05 AM   #1
wackypanda
Abandonia nerd

 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ,
Posts: 51
Default Crush! Deluxe runs too fast

Not sure how often it is that "running too fast" is a problem...

In all the matches that I've played, whether or not they involve any human-controlled teams, all moves are played too quickly for me to see anything other than their results. This is distinct from setting game simulation to "abstract", as that only shows results for each turn, whereas I've set it to "detailed" and I can see things like the use of vortex armour or ball bins at normal speed. Sound and the Megamedia opening animation are okay.

I'm running this in Virtual PC, Windows 98. RAM is set to 64 MB. Toggling hardware-assisted virtualisation on and off has no apparent effect, though I'm not sure it should.

Last edited by wackypanda; 02-02-2011 at 02:09 PM.
wackypanda is offline                         Send a private message to wackypanda
Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2011, 06:15 AM   #2
dosraider
Dismembered.
 
dosraider's Avatar

 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Dixmuide, Belgium
Posts: 2,767
Default

Run something in the background in VPC to keep W98 a bit busy, music or something... But chances are your game will become a bit jerky,trial and error......

Or use one of the older CPU killer progs that run in W98. Most of them can be set to use a % of the CPU.

[Edit]
One of many:
http://www.downloadatoz.com/utility_...ory/cpukiller/

For good understanding:
Run it IN VPC.
__________________

Not a member of The Victorious People's Shoutbox Liberation Army.
Not a member of the GAG Guerrilla. Don't get A Grip!
FOR RENT
*Advertising space*
dosraider is offline                         Send a private message to dosraider
Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2011, 06:43 PM   #3
Japo
Autonomous human
 
Japo's Avatar


 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: ,
Posts: 4,547
Default

Is this game originally for Windows? According to MobyGames it is, although it's uncommon for a Windows game to show this problem. If it were for DOS of course you should run it in DOSBox and the solution would be reducing the cycles.

If this game's for Windows, the problem is inside your virtual machine, so indeed the best or only solution would be using a "cpu killer" program INSIDE your virtual machine.
__________________
Life starts every day anew. Prospects not so good...
Japo is offline                         Send a private message to Japo
Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2011, 12:05 AM   #4
wackypanda
Abandonia nerd

 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ,
Posts: 51
Default

It won't run in DOSBox. I thought there might be a problem with the game itself because not everything is accelerated. Using CPU killers makes things choppy, as expected.
wackypanda is offline                         Send a private message to wackypanda
Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2011, 11:18 PM   #5
Eagle of Fire
Friendly Fire
 
Eagle of Fire's Avatar

 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Valleyfield, Canada
Posts: 4,892
Default

First time I've ever heard of a Win98 game which runs too fast.

Are you sure it is not a Windows 3.11 game in disguise? In such case you could run Win 3.11 with DOSBox and then cycle as you want.
__________________
I'm on a hot streak... Literally.
Proud member of The Abandoned since 2005.
Eagle of Fire is offline                         Send a private message to Eagle of Fire
Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2011, 06:25 PM   #6
wackypanda
Abandonia nerd

 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ,
Posts: 51
Default

First time I've heard of that too.

Can't find the manual, so I'm left with the game's troubleshooting .txt: "Crush! uses DirectX for sound and therefore is compatible with any Windows 95, or DirectX compatible sound card." Only place that the name of an OS appears. It was released in 1997 and installs DirectX 3.0 if no newer version is present, if that helps to place the game.
wackypanda is offline                         Send a private message to wackypanda
Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2011, 07:21 PM   #7
The Fifth Horseman
FUTURE SCIENCE BASTARD
 
The Fifth Horseman's Avatar


 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Opole, Poland
Posts: 14,264
Default

Definitely a Win95 game, then.
__________________

"God. Can't you people see I'm trying to commit a crime against science and nature here?"
-- Reed Richards
The Fifth Horseman is offline                         Send a private message to The Fifth Horseman
Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 04:15 AM   #8
wackypanda
Abandonia nerd

 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ,
Posts: 51
Default

I'd try Bochs now, but I can't make heads or tails of the documentation.

Just for chuckles, I installed Crush! Deluxe in Windows 98SE in Virtualbox (which does not like Win9x guests at all) and that gives quite a smooth slowdown. It only works for that purpose if hardware virtualisation (specifically VT-x/AMD-v) is disabled. Disabling hardware virtualisation doesn't seem to work for Virtual PC though, but then it doesn't say what exactly is being disabled.
wackypanda is offline                         Send a private message to wackypanda
Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 04:44 AM   #9
Eagle of Fire
Friendly Fire
 
Eagle of Fire's Avatar

 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Valleyfield, Canada
Posts: 4,892
Default

Sound like hardware or driver issue to me.
__________________
I'm on a hot streak... Literally.
Proud member of The Abandoned since 2005.
Eagle of Fire is offline                         Send a private message to Eagle of Fire
Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 04:53 AM   #10
wackypanda
Abandonia nerd

 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ,
Posts: 51
Default

Or maybe it's not enough of a performance hit for Virtual PC. Should I be looking at host or guest drivers?
wackypanda is offline                         Send a private message to wackypanda
Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Crush, Crumble and Chomp! Dreadlord Approved Requests 6 29-08-2011 10:49 PM
Crush Deluxe mouse31e Approved Requests 6 01-04-2008 05:15 PM
Crush Roller [NON-PC] Charley W Invalid Requests 1 13-07-2007 10:12 PM
Game Runs Too Fast zambone Troubleshooting 2 13-02-2006 08:04 PM
Crush Topic Indignus IV Blah, blah, blah... 136 26-06-2005 11:48 PM

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump
 


The current time is 12:28 AM (GMT)

 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.