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Hello there:

I've been dreaming of this game for a while but I simply can't remember the name or title of the game.
The game involved ships or boats.

You had different types of cannons from a cannonball with a chain that could tare down the sails of the ship, multi-cannonballs that did a ton of damage but had an epic recharge rate.

It was so like this "empire total war ship(s)" but it was well older than this!


The second game is alittle more harder for me to remember.
It was like the old CIV games where you took over towns to increase your gold supply and then in turn make more units to take over more towns.
Not only that you could build roads but you could build defenses.

It was a turn based game, what I do remember is there was a gold version of the game which allowed you to play with bots as the standard didn't have this in ( you needed to get the internet to patch it but this was back when dial up was setting up )
If it helps the artillery had a firing range IE: you couldn't str8 attack a city you needed to bomb from a tile afar. It looked very old and CIV like but it defo wasn't a CIV game. It in the later stages you could build nukes and do the same thing. All items built were post modern era.

Just like to thank everyone for their help or even just reading this post.
I'm out at my GF's for a few days so I won't be able to post back till I get home

Thank you all again and I hope you all have a great new year !

EDIT: forgot to mention they were pc games