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[LordZsar1]

The tag "fantasy" has no german translation - it's "fantasy" there as well.

I did some research on western germany (to see if they know it too) and apparently there indeed is a fitting german -rather: germanised - word that fits the purpose better than a 1:1 adoption:

The tag should be named "Phantastik".

[Icewolf]

Originally Posted by LordZsar1

The tag "fantasy" has no german translation - it's "fantasy" there as well.

I did some research on western germany (to see if they know it too) and apparently there indeed is a fitting german -rather: germanised - word that fits the purpose better than a 1:1 adoption:

The tag should be named "Phantastik".

Sorry, but better leave it with fantasy.

NOBODY in Germany says "Phantasik".

[Capo]

Well, in italian almost all the tags are totally random, so that is not a big issue i guess.

[LordZsar1]

Well, I do admit that I did not look as far west as Munich, but...

http://www.villa-galactica.de/HuM_Si...Entdeckung.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...astik_Ring.png

Oh, see: I picked Munich randomly and obviously I was wrong with that (the link below originates from the local university). ^^

http://www.theaterwissenschaft.uni-m...l/img079_l.jpg

@Icewolf: Just ask Google about "Phantastik" and choose "Seiten auf Deutsch". There is even a "Deutscher Phantastik Preis".
(Strange how they choose to use the english way to combine their nouns but stood with the german spelling... )

[Icewolf]

Originally Posted by LordZsar1

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@Icewolf: Just ask Google about "Phantastik" and choose "Seiten auf Deutsch". There is even a "Deutscher Phantastik Preis".
(Strange how they choose to use the english way to combine their nouns but stood with the german spelling... )

It's not supposed to sound rude, but two things:

1. The internet doesn't tell me how to speak german.

2. Classifiying an international known game on an international website doesn't need EVERY phrase translated.
Fantasy is a well known genre all through the entertainment industry.
Of course we should protect our language from more anglisms.
This is going a bit too far, in my opinion.

What do the fellow users think? This might work for other languages as well.

[hunvagy]

Originally Posted by Icewolf

It's not supposed to sound rude, but two things:

1. The internet doesn't tell me how to speak german.

2. Classifiying an international known game on an international website doesn't need EVERY phrase translated.
Fantasy is a well known genre all through the entertainment industry.
Of course we should protect our language from more anglisms.
This is going a bit too far, in my opinion.

What do the fellow users think? This might work for other languages as well.

Actually it never ever crossed my mind to localize fantasy or sci-fi. Seems pretty pointless because the genres are known as that in just about every language IMO. BTW, shouldn't that be "Phantasie" if you are so hellbent on localizing it?

[LordZsar1]

I did not make that one up, I am not the one to ask. The word was established as soon as 1980, earlier mayhap, and is therefore at least eight years older than I am.

"Phantasie", recently "Fantasie", means "imagination", the corresponding images ("figments") are usually referred to as "Phantastereien" (more often: "Einbildungen", "Hirngespinste", but those are obviously not related to the radical in question).
It is not associated with genre classification in any way I know about - it might be interesting that in literature, fictional situations are categorised as "imaginär", whereas "phantastisch" refers to those that are impossible to occur at the given time frame or with a time frame in the future.
As that is, there is indeed no german equivalent for the term "Science Fiction" and at least in eastern germany before 1990 it fell under "Phantastik" as well - though that appears to be not the case anymore.

[Pex]

Originally Posted by Icewolf

What do the fellow users think? This might work for other languages as well.

Serbian language has no adequate translation either. Similarly to German, the anglicism used in Serbian 'fantazija' means exclusively imagining, while 'fantastika' means fiction (our translation of sci-fi is 'naučna fantastika' - which translates back into English as 'scientific fiction').

Some people use term 'epska fantastika' which means 'epic fiction', but imo that is a completely different genre to fantasy (or maybe you could say a sub-genre of it). So very commonly in Serbian you'd hear people just saying 'fantazi' which is just our spelling of the word 'fantasy', but I don't think the word actually exists.

We had discusion in our translation topic about leaving some words in original or translating them. I'm totally for protection of my native language, but it's often a hard call, especially with the words and phrases that appeared in the last 50 or 60 years as a part of computer/gaming industry (like RPG, game engine, etc) which when translated sound really awkward because you have to use descriptive translation. So we decided to leave them and I'm sure readers were appreciate our decision and not even notice it. On the other hand, if we were translating them, I'm sure many readers would think 'what are these guys on about?'

[Icewolf]

Originally Posted by hunvagy

Actually it never ever crossed my mind to localize fantasy or sci-fi. Seems pretty pointless because the genres are known as that in just about every language IMO. BTW, shouldn't that be "Phantasie" if you are so hellbent on localizing it?

I agree that that would be more proper.

Originally Posted by LordZsar1

I did not make that one up, I am not the one to ask. The word was established as soon as 1980, earlier mayhap, and is therefore at least eight years older than I am.

"Phantasie", recently "Fantasie", means "imagination", the corresponding images ("figments") are usually referred to as "Phantastereien" (more often: "Einbildungen", "Hirngespinste", but those are obviously not related to the radical in question).
It is not associated with genre classification in any way I know about - it might be interesting that in literature, fictional situations are categorised as "imaginär", whereas "phantastisch" refers to those that are impossible to occur at the given time frame or with a time frame in the future.
As that is, there is indeed no german equivalent for the term "Science Fiction" and at least in eastern germany before 1990 it fell under "Phantastik" as well - though that appears to be not the case anymore.

Nobody is blaming you for making it up nor trolling you for posting crap or something like that.

We are just in doubt of the use of a translation.
To me it's pointless.

[Japo]

Oh là là fantastique!