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Old 01-07-2019, 11:38 AM   #451
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Default Zelda: Link's awakening -> Majora's Mask

So, this is direct continuation of the previously released game. And finaly gives name to the hero: Link.
The platform is some gameboy, so it looks relatively small, what is good news I think.
the goal of the game is to commit holocaust to an entire culture, and that's why u r the hero. Yay!
And your reward is - to starve to death in the middle of the ocean! That was pretty grimm.

To add a bit, here's how the timeline stands at this point. No additional info made up by me, and all ingame/inmanual info is included:
the 4 games are in 2 pairs, 2-2 being direct sequels of each others. The question is though, which Zelda is present in the prequels: the Original Zelda, or a later Zelda. We have no idea. Likely the later, so I call her Zelda Y at this point.

PS: the ending is ripoff from Monkey Island 3, but as mentioned it creates a completly different feeling because how it is set up.

EDIT: Contradiction time!
So, The Adventure of Link said the Original Zelda's father had the Triforce, and put the three Triangles at three locations. Also, from that point on were every female descendant-princess named Zelda.
The problem is, in every game the princess (in many if not all games also descendant of the sages) is called Zelda.
But if the Triforce was broken to its pieces at the Original Zelda's time, then how did Ganon aquire the Triforce unshattered?

Opinion on continuity and the official timeline:
The first two games' continuity is dubious in the series, but the rest seems solid. Ocarina of Time's key moment is though that Gnaon CAN leave the Shadow Realm, and during the endfight, before he is sealed away finaly, does transform into his demon-pig form. So the whole time-split explanation is obviously made by someone not familiar with the actual games, or intentionaly neglected hugh chuncks of them.
Otherwise there IS a reason for the Three Timeline. The 2nd and 3rd you know is when Link wins. One is the timeline of Link, who travelled back in time, and the 3rd is for everyone else in the created alternate timeline of the future.
Those who complaint forget thatthere was ANOTHER time travel in the game, namely when Link traveled into the future to be able to use the Master Sword. The use of the Master Sword is by the way indicator Ocarine happens before Link to the Past. So there mustbe a timeline where Link is taken out of time, so there's no Link to prevent Ganon doing whatever he wants. As I said the problem with this is, that Link must fight Ganon to G be transformed into Demonpig.


Seems these games came in pairs, as Majora's Mask is continuation of Ocarina of Time.
The game has practicaly no relevance on the lore, as it plays inyet another world along the Light and Dark realms. No explanation how Link Z got there, probably just got lost in some woods.
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Default Zelda: Oracle of Ages/Seasons

This is a weird combo. The "true ending" seems to indicate it is the same story in two different alternate versions.
And if you check the solo playthroughs, you see while both game happen in some alternate realities, Ages also includes time travel!
Obviously these games can't happen on one single timeline. So this is either a split - or a merge!

Four Swords
Another independent adventure. The series rly started to show degradation at this point.

Wind Waker
Finaly back on track. At this point of the series The Hero of Time not appearing could happen for 2 reasons: one is the later official view that beacuse of time travel and alternative timeline. But it could have been (or is, if the office again don't know what they're talking about) that Link of Ocarina didn't appear, because was in that alternate reality hunting Majora's Mask.
Well, until you consider the world got flodded immediately after Ganon appeared yet again, so to fit it on an unshattered timeline, you'd have to dry the world after this adventure, which is pretty unlikely.
Also, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks are direct continuation of this timeline, and otherwise pretty inconsequential for the series.

Four Swords Adventure
This piece of #&@ doesn't even have a backstory in the manual.
Inside the game our best clue is, that Ganon is in the Dark World, and there's a Shrine of the Four Sword which was built in the Four Sword game.
It starts to be very boring that Ganon is always resurrected, and even without any explanation how.

Skyward Sword
CONTRADICTION: Skyward Sword says the Master Sword was created that time. The problem is, the 3rd game said the Master Sword was created during the Imprisoning War, against Ganon!
Also remains the question what happened with the flying country.

The Minish Cap seems to be a prequel and the story of the creation of the Four Sword. Fine for me.
The problem is, the sole connection of the Vaati-story to the main story is a onetime appearance of Ganon, so placing the story is a bit problematic. Ganon being constantlybanished, imprisoned, resurrected, and maybe even reborn makes the clarification of this question a big fuss.

Twilight Princess seems well done to come on the Majora's Mask timline, but I can't tell if there's a possibe continuity for Four Swords Adventures w/o playing that game, what I won't do.


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At this point I have the following continuities (Season/Ages has the same number 7 at me):


1 -> 2
11 -> 8 -> 10 with possible connection to other continuities
15
7 with undeterminated possible connections. My hypothesis at this point that it merges the time-split, so is wrongly placed on the official timeline.

5 -> 6 -> 12
5 -> 9 -> 13 -> 14
5 -> 3 -> 4


uninvestigated: 16, 17, 18
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:22 PM   #453
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Default SteamWorld Quest: Hand of Gilgameh

This is a good game.
Not great, you don't want to play it in one session, but a look is nice, the gameplay is smooth, it works on my computer (so you don't need gamer-pc), the amount of dialogue is toleratable and needed to make the otherwise slightly repetitive fights toleratable.


Also, the puns and humour is ctachable like flu even while clicking away the dialogue,and that the big shiny knight-robot is a she, made me smile.
Overal, a good, solid game.
Can't say anything about the prices, as living in a backwater country everything is too expensive for us, but by the look of it I say the price can be around right.
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