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Old 23-09-2007, 12:51 AM   #61
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You got totally torched man. That's an ice burn dude. Totally dude.
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Old 23-09-2007, 01:29 AM   #62
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rlbell @ Sep 22 2007, 12:10 AM) [snapback]312394[/snapback]</div>
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I am a Baptist. I do not believe what any church says. I believe what the Bible says. I believe Jesus is who he said he was. I do not believe he was the world's greatest liar.
Having said all that, I do not think the forums are the right place for this or politics as they say. Of course I am not a Admin or Mod. Just my thoughts.
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Which bible?

Is it the one that includes only the hebrew books of the Old Testament that made it into the Jewish Canon, in the late first century, or the more complete one that included the Deuterocanonicals that Jesus occassionally quoted?

The Deuterocanonical were originally written in greek, by greek speaking jews, and were in wide use, at the time of Jesus. Much debate on why these books were eventually excluded centers around the fact that they were used by early christians to justify their faith, which posed problems for maintaining an orderly jewish society.

Do Baptists celebrate the Eucharist?

It wasn't something made up by any church, it is right there in most (all?) versions of the Bible.
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King James only please. No baptist do not celebrate the Eucharist. We do the Lords Supper in remembrance.
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Old 23-09-2007, 01:45 AM   #63
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I can't believe I'm taking this bait. But anyway....

Oh newly "ordained" one, I have a question for you, but I'll let Epicurius ask it (because he is so much more eloquent than me) -

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"
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But I also refer to my first post about Beliefs and poltics.
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Old 23-09-2007, 01:50 AM   #64
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In the remote case your intent wasn't making fun, the last thing I said stands. Pride is one of the seven capital sins, you if you want to be cool with the big guy above, repent and redeem.

Not only age, every serious religios puts more than a click between you and God mediator status, for some churces (Catholic for one) that's several years of study like a university degree, and of course you can't start those studies at 15 but at the same age you're prepared for any other university studies.

And age does matter. I don't know how clever you really are compared to others, although I do know you think yourself big deal (again pride is a capital sin), but what I do know is that from 10 years on you won't have the same opinions about many issues, don't know which ones, only that you'll change many opinions. When I was 15 I though myself pretty sensible, although I wasn't as arrogant as you, and now I know that I was truly pretty sensible at 15; but I was not an adult at 15, nobody is, not even geniuses. The only people who have fully developed at 15 are the utter boneheads anyway.
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Old 23-09-2007, 05:05 AM   #65
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(thebes @ Sep 23 2007, 12:45 AM) [snapback]312614[/snapback]</div>
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But I also refer to my first post about Beliefs and poltics.
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See, that doesn't go near to enough to put my heart at rest. I think that "God's ways are not ours" is a wonderful catch-all for explaining away lots of things are at best proof of faith and at worst, proof there is no God

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Old 23-09-2007, 05:44 AM   #66
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Old 23-09-2007, 07:58 AM   #67
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if i am a fetus and i kill my mother during birth, am i to go in hell?
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Old 23-09-2007, 08:42 AM   #68
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Playbahnosh @ Sep 23 2007, 01:45 AM) [snapback]312584[/snapback]</div>
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Not only are you stubborn you have proven your also a fat idiot .
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See? You don't have any valid answers or points, and failing that you go on ranting that we are all a bunch of ignorant fools, and "we don't know that you have a mission" and stuff like that. Really, Alex, I know that being a teenager is not easy, but this is rediculous. Pull yourself together, man.
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And all of this after the public calls for the thread getting closed.

Alex, no matter how you look at it, if nothing else, this "discusion" here at the forum should prove to you that you are NOT ENLIGHTENED ENOUGH to be a spiritual counceler to anybody, if you react so violently to a small community of people who are not trying to hurt you, but are simply doubtful. There is much more doubt in the world and people can get much nastier. How would you handle that?

And would your advice to the teenager be, don't have sex, don't get girls pregnated, do something better with your life? If they really would (and by some strange coinsidence you convince the whole world of that) you'd be responsable for the death of the human race (humanity needs sex, humanity needs babies).
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Old 23-09-2007, 05:25 PM   #69
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if i am a fetus and i kill my mother during birth, am i to go in hell?
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Pretty much, since I'm not a minister too, I can pretty much say you're guaranteed to rot in hell.
Dude, come on Himmler.
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