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[SlowCoder]

Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s.

huh? when did i say that? o_O

Post #20:

Originally Posted by dosraider

It's simply worthless, always was.

[dosraider]

I deny everything.


*But my point still stands.*
FDisk can't resize on the fly, can't copy syspartitions, can't handle non-dos partitions, can't resize the clusters on the fly without dataloss, can't erase data in 10 passes, can't write garbage to a HD to thouroughly erase it, sux when used on multi-boot systems, etcetera etcetera etycetera .... long long long list the FDisk never was able to handle, but most third party partitioners can do...
It was probably one of the first dossysprogs to be improved by third party devs...... and for good reasons.
Those who claim that FDisk is a good program simply never have used a third party partition manager. PERIOD.

[SlowCoder]

Hermmm ...

I'm not arguing that newer managers are better than fdisk. But you are comparing older technology, which had its place until just a few years ago, and worked just great with the technology available at the time. The new managers came about due to a gap between the new technologies, and that fdisk was unable to keep up with (ntfs, large hard drives, spanned drives, etc.)

My argument is that fdisk has its place, especially on legacy equipment, where it's not necessary to pull out the newer big guns.

So there! :bleh:

[dosraider]

Nope Slowcoder,

Originally Posted by dosraider

It was probably one of the first dossysprogs to be improved by third party devs

I'm talking about older software also.
As was in those days :PowerQuest.
You hardly can call the early PQuest a 'big gun'.
But even @the prompt it beats FDisk completely.
The non-gui version fits on a bootable 720Kb flop.

:bleh: yourself.

[_r.u.s.s.]

Originally Posted by SlowCoder

Post #20:

oh yes, dosraider, that's totally same nickname as _r.u.s.s.
..o_O?

[SlowCoder]

Originally Posted by dosraider

Nope Slowcoder,

I'm talking about older software also.
As was in those days :PowerQuest.
You hardly can call the early PQuest a 'big gun'.
But even @the prompt it beats FDisk completely.
The non-gui version fits on a bootable 720Kb flop.

:bleh: yourself.

When did PQ, or any other 3rd party pertitioners, arrive on the scene? I'm too lazy to research it myself.

I think DOS 3.3 was out about '87. Did it have fdisk? Yes. I doubt PQ was out then.
Was PQ out in '94, when DOS 6.22 was released? I don't know. I'm too lazy.

At some point, fdisk was the only tool available, and hence, was not useless. But by today's standards, I agree it is very useless. Just like many of MS's system tools.

[SlowCoder]

Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s.

oh yes, dosraider, that's totally same nickname as _r.u.s.s.
..o_O?

Um, I guess I just got my hat handed to me.

[dosraider]

Originally Posted by SlowCoder

Was PQ out in '94, when DOS 6.22 was released?

Certainly, it was then partition magic 3.0.
Don't remember when the 1.x was on the scene, too long ago.

Oh yeah btw:

Originally Posted by SlowCoder

My argument is that fdisk has its place, especially on legacy equipment

So you would use edlin on a dos 3 'legacy' system?
Don't think so, we certainly didn't use that thing back in those days.
You seem to confuse 'legacy' with 'workable'.
Why would I use a basic command interpreter at the prompt if I can have full 4Dos power?
Why would I use a basic dosshell if I can have the power of a NC or SD?
Same for FDisk.
'Legacy'? My as*.


*And the blahblahblah goes on and on and on.....

[SlowCoder]

[quote=dosraider;341848]Certainly, it was then partition magic 3.0.
Don't remember when the 1.x was on the scene, too long ago.

Oh yeah btw:

Originally Posted by dosraider

So you would use edlin on a dos 3 'legacy' system?
Don't think so, we certainly didn't use that thing back in those days.

Sure, if that was what's available to me. I'm not afraid to use the command line. But I cheated and used NC's editor for most of my editing.

Originally Posted by dosraider

You seem to confuse 'legacy' with 'workable'.

My definition of legacy is something that is no longer in wide use, or is incapable of running current operating systems or applications. A good ol' IBM XT would be a prime example of 'legacy', and is something I really wish I had for the full DOS gaming experience!

Originally Posted by dosraider

Why would I use a basic command interpreter at the prompt if I can have full 4Dos power?

4DOS? Sounds vaguely familiar, though I'll admit I never touched it. ... *reads up on it* ... Hmmm. Definitely looks like something I might have given a shot a few years ago. Interesting ...

Originally Posted by dosraider

Why would I use a basic dosshell if I can have the power of a NC or SD?

I used to use NC on my old XT back in the day. I liked it well enough, but I still utilized its built-in command line for most things.

Originally Posted by dosraider

Same for FDisk.

Fair enough. However, I'm a sysadmin, and while I've got copies of Partition Magic and QTParted, I've never had any need to use them for resizing. And I use Linux CLI tools for recovery of partitions and data on both Linux and Windows boxes.

Originally Posted by dosraider

'Legacy'? My as*.
*And the blahblahblah goes on and on and on.....

Oh, come now ... is this just your age showing? *rubs it in*

P.S. While we both have a point, I hope you know I'm not taking this totally serious. This is more of an exercise of mine to waste my time than anything else. So I'll understand if you wish to concede. However, it is rather enjoyable.

[dosraider]

Originally Posted by SlowCoder

P.S. While we both have a point,

Of course we both have a point, I have a big fat one, you have a small tiny one.

Originally Posted by SlowCoder

I hope you know I'm not taking this totally serious. This is more of an exercise of mine to waste my time than anything else.

I never take a forum discussion seriously. (Or better said: rarely).

Originally Posted by SlowCoder

So I'll understand if you wish to concede. However, it is rather enjoyable.

I'll concede happilly, after all, it won't change much for me, a discussion on a godforsaken abandonware forum... will it?

Know what, let us blame AluniuM, AliMiun, AlumiuN, whatever and go on with our lives.
:nuts: