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View Poll Results: What religion do you believe in?
Catholic 7 8.43%
Atheist 27 32.53%
"Born Again" 3 3.61%
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) 3 3.61%
Christian non-denominational 8 9.64%
Hindu 1 1.20%
Pagan 0 0%
Lutheran 2 2.41%
Presbyterian 1 1.20%
Methodist 0 0%
Jewish 4 4.82%
Protestant 2 2.41%
Islam 3 3.61%
Other 5 6.02%
"I make my own religion" 15 18.07%
"None of your business" 2 2.41%
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Old 25-02-2005, 07:54 PM   #211
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Originally posted by Sebatianos+Feb 25 2005, 07:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sebatianos @ Feb 25 2005, 07:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mentor@Feb 25 2005, 02:26 AM
Oh, boo-fekkin-hoo. I sure hope nobody gets offended.

Man, if anyone's offended by ANY conversation they just need to lighten the fek up.

For example, I hate Christians in general. Some have redeemed themselves, but anyone who's a self-proclaimed Christian automatically goes down about ten notches in my book. They're mostly sheep and idiots who blindly follow whatever their Holy book tells them, and many don't even do that, they just listen to their local pastor. And they use the book as evidence when it's so obviously a work of hash-induced fiction it's insane.

How's THAT for offensive?
Now that's really way too much.

You'll find me among the first people to be critical of the Christian church and very likely to try and find counter arguments for their arguments, but I have respect for every single human being. I might get in a flaming discusion from time to time - when two opinions crash, but HATE people on principal or insluting them... That's .
I see you might be old enough to have your own life, so maybe not everything Fruit Pie Jones said would be ture in your case, but the only thing you showed is, that you are in fact close minded, which really made me change my opinion about you (you have otherwise made some fairly good posts).
I can understand your need to rebel and an established religion would be one of the likely targets to rebel against, but this isn't rebeling, it just insolting, so you might apeare stronger.


@Xcom Freak: You could have used some different expression, but I hope you don't get a warn, because this proverbial shoe fits! [/b][/quote]
It is good to know that people think the same like you :tnx:
Oh btw dont someone know what mean that warn 0 percent under my Avatar?
I would understand if there was a warn 10percent(that would mean I have said or done something dumb) but with 0?
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Old 25-02-2005, 08:01 PM   #212
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Sure, as humans they deserve some respect, I won't go out of my way to kill, maim, or otherwise injure a Christian, nor will I really, generally, go out of my way to insult them. But when they come to ME about it, I have a problem.

Let me put it like this: I grew up in LA. Really nice, really open-minded family. No racism, no hatred, no bigotry, none of it. I like to think that I am open minded. Hell, I grew up in a fairly Catholic family, so my moral values probably are slightly Christian(Now, before that argument starts, Catholics and Christians are, in my mind, close enough to be the same. Same general religion, same god). Then, when I turned 10, my dad and I moved to Memphis, Tennessee. The middle of the damn Bible Belt. At the time, it was a new experience, though I loathed to leave my home. First day of elementary school, at the end of the day (Wednsday), one of the kids I had made friends with asked me which church I went to.

"I don't go to church. Never have, actually."

You'd think I shot Mother Teresa (Whom is one of those people whom I respect above many others, simply because she was a tough old hag). I heard pencils drop, for fek's sake.

"You... don't go to church?"

"Nope."

"Then what religion are you?"

"I don't have one, really. I mean, I never really thought about it."

"He worships Satan!"

"Devil worshiper!"

I'm not making this up. So, for my entire stay at Elementary school, I was flagged as a tool of TEH DEVEL! and pretty well tormented with mountains of religious crap, which I'd much rather avoid altogether. Let the religious folk have their beliefs, doesn't mean I have to accept it, like it, or even care about it.

Middle School (Junior High), same damn thing. Some kids followed me from Elem. and spread the word. This was the time when fights were a big deal, that if you couldn't fight you weren't worth anything. I didn't give a rats behind about my "image", I just wanted a damn education, so I got my behind kicked. A LOT. By self-righteous Christians who thought they were doing a service by "Beating the fear of GAWD" into me, as several kids put it. This was also when the teachers started doing it, trying to convert me DURING CLASS on a weekly basis. I tried to sue for violations of the first amendment, but in Memphis children have no rights except the right to sit down, shut up, and do what the adults say.

High School. I was your classic rebel without a clue. And Christianity still ran rampant in that school system. This time, however, I won ninety percent of the fights, and by sophmore year I had a reputation as the creepy Satanist guy in the trenchcoat (It was a London Fog, a really nice one, too) who's really quiet and who can kick you behind in a heartbeat. Thus, people left me alone. I calmed down, I became a little more laid back, and my viewpoints of the world changed.

Now, here I am. Does the story make sense? Depends on how you see things. To me, what it says is that I have a reason to dislike Christians, because of my experiences with them. Yes, it's irrational, yes it's probably dumb, but it's the way I see the world. And as for hating random-person A (Black, White, Jew) you're entitled to like and dislike whomever you want. Not my place to judge your opinions.

And if you don't like me because of one simple opinion, then I guess I should just log off and never come back.

If I win that stupid contest, my e-mail's in my profile.
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Old 25-02-2005, 08:05 PM   #213
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So ur opinion of a religion is based on a bunch of kids beating u and insulting u while u were at school :blink: ?
u cant generalise ur experience on the whole religion.
this religion is about TOLERANCE and if they didn't tolerate the fact that u didnt go to church they are less christian then u are .
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Old 25-02-2005, 08:06 PM   #214
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So you've been generalizing Christians ever since? You poor misguided little sap.
                       
Old 25-02-2005, 08:23 PM   #215
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I too am fed up with religions of any kind, the christening in my opinion is a load of sh... The kids laughed that I wasnt christened, but personally I dot give a f... So I now hate people who are telling me about religion and other nonsense, even if god himself were to come to me and tell me what to do I'd probably tell him to get the hell out of my way.
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Old 25-02-2005, 08:47 PM   #216
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Originally posted by troop18546@Feb 25 2005, 09:23 PM
I too am fed up with religions of any kind, the christening in my opinion is a load of sh... if you know what I mean.
I was rooting in the beginning to keep this thread open but now i really feel like it should be closed and NO we dont know what u mean
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Old 25-02-2005, 09:23 PM   #217
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Meh some people give me the look when I say I'm an atheist and if they start talking stuff like devil, I say I don't believe in him...
So I pretty much have an answer to all of their attacks, I even make some of them think...
It also annoys me when Christians make of fun of muslims cause their different worship of god....
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Old 25-02-2005, 09:46 PM   #218
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Originally posted by Mentor@Feb 25 2005, 09:01 PM
so my moral values probably are slightly Christian(Now, before that argument starts, Catholics and Christians are, in my mind, close enough to be the same. Same general religion, same god).
Catholics ARE christian. It is a denomination of christianity. My whole dad's side of the family is catholic, so I'm not an outsider looking in here. The beliefs (overall) of the Catholic church are EXACTLY the same (overall) as any other christian religion.
I'll make a diagram for everyone:

Judaeism
I
Christianity
I I I
Catholic Protestant Anglican

(Anglican is part of Christianity)

Then these groups split into many different groups like Lutheran, Presbetyrian, Mormon (sortof) , and all of the other generic denominations.
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Old 25-02-2005, 10:15 PM   #219
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This thread should be closed. People here don't know how to have a religious discussion without making insults or using generalizations and stereotypes.
                       
Old 25-02-2005, 10:16 PM   #220
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I know this is completely off topic but you do the same...
Your post i.e. Goths are stupid.
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