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[TotalAnarchy]

You're basically saying that if I want to enjoy cake, I need to change the flavor every time, or if I want to enjoy driving, I should change the cars every time.

[hunvagy]

Originally Posted by Eagle of Fire

Sheesh people, I'm really starting to think I don't have my place around here anymore. You guys are really burying your head in the sand if you cannot realize there is a ton of difference between old games and the new modern era.

Even those "shallow platformers" of the old time had a great fun and replay value at the time they were created because they had the originality aspect slapped to them. It was new, it was hip and because of this it was fun. Then you try to compare it to new games who do exactly the same thing but with better graphics (don't tell me that Sonic platformers are different from his beginning on the Genesis simply because it is 3D and he can walk in four directions instead of 2???) and they are not original anymore.

Anyways... I'm losing my time talking here. Even if I had those statistics you are asking for, which would really be stupid in the first place since nobody would ever do that, you would still slap those preconceptions around.

Okay, this will be less tempered then I initially wanted, but WTF!

Seriously, you have just as many preconceptions, or even more then "us", whoever the bloody hell us is. Have you ever, even for a nanosecond sat down and tried any of those "new gamez" you bash on and on? "Eww graphics, they can't reach up to the heights that was Sokoban.." and crap like that. I don't give a flying duck about FPS and RTS and all that crowd pleasing shyte, there's enough GOOD new games out there for everyone to enjoy without having to follow the gamer kiddie hype.

And you know what? Fallout 3 is a great game, in ways even better then the first two. And why? Not the graphics, not the pretty weak story. What makes it awesome is the exploration element, which is a lot more gratifying if you actually see the nuclear bomb, not just three red pixels and a line of text that you found ze bomb. It has flair and a very good atmosphere, and for me that even excuses that it is *gasp* partly a shooter. And fyi, it's you who are sticking his head into the sand and singing "lalalalalalalala these new games don't exist, it's just a bad dream" and hug your laminated copy of Ultima 1 like it's the last twinkies in Zombieland.

Nobody forces any of us to play hidden objects games, or to get an iPhone with iOS to play that load of shovelware. There's a great variety, and you don't judge the industry by AAA titles. Not when things like This are in the making. Or this, or even this.

This summer I spent almost two months playing the two Drakensang games and Witcher 1-2. And I had finished them, which is a lot to say for myself, because I usually leave all my games 80-90% finished, because I loose interest. But these kept me going, because they had intricate game mechanics, awesome lore and stories, and intriguing characters. And because it was bloody good fun for a good 40-50 hours each. So yes, you keep on campaining against new games and stay frozen in time, but don't go on telling other people that they can't play Fallout 1 because they have been corrupted by the evil gaming industry, because that is plain and simply BULLSHIT.

[Eagle of Fire]

Yup, as I said... Slapping preconceptions around.

Losing my time here...

[Lulu_Jane]

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"
Winston Churchill


And with that in mind, I think we've thrashed this one out yet again, so I'm going to close this thread. I'm sure we all know it will come up again at some point