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Seen this before... not a new idea.
I agree totally with Omuletzu.. It's too much hassle for little result. And in a way against the ethics of the scene. Oh and whoever said the abandonware scene would be dead in a few years if we didn't do this.. Really know what you're talking about first. NO site has a complete collection of abandoned games - IT still has room to expand and grow. |
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25-02-2005, 02:20 PM | #32 | ||
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25-02-2005, 02:25 PM | #33 | ||
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@hanging: Sorry you feel that way... |
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25-02-2005, 03:10 PM | #34 | ||
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25-02-2005, 03:43 PM | #35 | ||
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I don't like this idea. Several reasons.
First: this is too serious. You are talking about loan from the bank. Who's gonna start the company and put his property for claiming the loan? What if the buisness drops? Where will be the center and where will you produce new CDs and packages for producing? Who is going to be "the guy we trust" to take care of funds? If we sell games, taht means someone will have to work, that means paycheck, that's not really unprofitable. Second: Why bother, why being good fairy? We supply abw games. In the future there will be more of them. You can't think that in 10 year Quake will still be sold, or that Half-Life 2 will be sold in 2050. Now, as for the etichs, still very confusing. This is abw site. No work with money. It doesn't matter that main goal is providing games for free, it is still some sort of monopoly. It is one thing if you are, say, a millionaire and have up to 100 000 euros to spent for your own pleasure. Then you are irritated by the rights-holders and buy some games and give them to abw sites for free distributation. Then you can find more people who think like you, you preapare some real-kicking server and host all those games in full. But asking for people to come and do this. Well, this is not what abw is all about. If you really like the idea, then you who want to try, gather yourself, start the company and your own site (something like abwlivesforever.com) and start buying and selling new (i mean not very old) games and providing greatest abw sites with older ones. All this is still completly unnecessary. Abw sites have lot of space to grow. HOTU are the gratest with 6 years of 2-games-added per day. Abandonia is way behind providing the abw games, and we even don't provide CGA. If time comes that games are not becoming abw anymore (this rights protection or whatever), well, then not we, but MANY abw sites should join together in one big action of buying copyrights for oldest games. And even then, they should first start with contributions and people's good will (there will probably be many interested and many with money) and start buying the games one-by-one and providing them on their sites. That will be one big brotherhood or union of abw sites, but it is in the far future. "First comes first" so don't rush. If you are really into this idea, give it a try, experience you gain might be more then useful in the future actions, but you must leave abw sites out of this. You must act on your own, and suplly abw sites with your games if you want to and when you decide to. So, you must act as independent company which can make some sites bigger and game-fans happier if you want to. |
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25-02-2005, 04:00 PM | #36 | ||
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Yes I also stand against this idea.I have many arguments,but most of them were sid before,so just to spare space and time:It is a beutiful dream,but nothing more.If you will be patient you will surely find them as abadonwarez(and probably also on abadondia k: )
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28-02-2005, 01:07 PM | #37 | ||
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You are probably right. What is going to decide this is what companies will do with their copyright rights. The companies( specially the big ones)grow more zealous each day.Proof of this is the rules they want to approve and the organizations that they want to create to certify that those rules are applied.
Besides, if the companies see that many people are interested in their old games they might republish it, as Atari did, just to make some extra cash. if this hapens, the games aren't abandonware any more. But hopefuly this will not hapen, and it's only a matter of time until games like fallout are considered abandonware. Long live the abw scene.Long live Abandonia. |
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