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[Talin]

Most RPGs today are crappy action-RPG type fairs with a few of them third person, but there's no difference in that really.

dont disagree with ya there. all of the new RPGS that get released nowadays are crappy hype fests. Even Oblivion was kinda crappy, and i always loved the Elder Scrolls series since Arena.

but since the topic creator asked after Ultima Underworld type of games (First-Person View Dungeon Crawler) i gathered that he wanted the First -Person View gaming and would be interested in testing other "RPG" games where you can use FPV (First-Person View), and since Arx Fatalis was mentioned earlier i instead hinted that Gothic 3 had FPV by choice, who knows, maybe he likes it?

never intended for my post to become a slugfest with anyone.
i shall go back and just read the posts from now on, easier that way and no one needs to get angry on me.