Extra content in demos, shareware versions and ports - Page 10

MrFlibble · 03-02-2013, 05:56 PM

Again, thanks for the info!

BTW, I've just watched your YouTube channel, you've got a lot of cool videos there

MrFlibble · 05-02-2013, 11:30 AM

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Once a heat seeker card is picked in v1.0, the missile launcher automatically switches into heat-seeking mode. In v1.2, you still need to manually switch it to heat seeking mode after picking the card.

My bad, this actually depends on whether the missile launcher is selected when the heat seeker card is picked (when the launcher is the currently selected weapon, it will switch into heat-seeking mode automatically), and this behaviour is identical in all versions.

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Interestingly enough, v1.2 does not seem to have any neon lamps that can actually be destroyed by the player, even though this feature was already present in Duke Nukem 3D.

This is also not entirely correct, as there are some breakable neon lamps; others remain indestructible, like in previous versions.

Anyway, I also noticed this little thing:

The simple sky texture in level 3 was replaced by a panoramic view of mountains and forest. This change, however, is not very obvious because most of the sky is obscured by structures in the open areas (temple entrance and courtyard; the area with chasms later into the level has a different sky altogether), with only the sky being visible in both versions unless you really look around.

Another difference is that v1.2 seems to have weapon priorities: for example, if you start level 3 with no previously collected weapons, pick the UZI and then pick sticky bombs, you'll switch from the UZI to the sticky bombs; however, if you pick the bombs first you won't switch to the UZI automatically when you pick it. In v1.0, you'll switch to whatever newly acquired weapon you've picked, no matter what it is and what you already have in your arsenal.

MrFlibble · 05-02-2013, 03:25 PM

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Rise of the Triad: The H.U.N.T. Begins Special Edition (a.k.a. Deluxe Edition)
To quote Joe Siegler:

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"There is an extra version called Rise of the Triad: The HUNT Begins
SPECIAL EDITION. This is marketed in retail by LaserSoft. It is the
same as the regular shareware episode, except is has 3 extra levels, and
3 extra COMM-BAT Levels that are not available on ANY other version.
Apogee does not distribute this version, it is only available in stores
from LaserSoft."

The Deluxe Edition was later discontinued, and the extra levels were released for free.
Download LaserSoft Deluxe Level Pack

I didn't realise until now that these free levels also work with the shareware version:

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

All 6 levels were designed by Tom Hall, and you can use these either on your registered Rise of the Triad game, or on the shareware edition. The other levels in these level packs are the existing shareware levels - these extras are in addition to the shareware levels that are already in your game.

(source)

I was confused by the fact that the Lasersoft level pack is listed under the files that require the registered version to run. I also did not realize that the levels were made by Tom Hall, somehow I thought that the levels were made in-house by Lasersoft.

MrFlibble · 06-05-2013, 02:29 PM

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I've figured out this website can be browsed by means of the Wayback Machine too:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://.../msdos/games/*
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...win3xx/games/*
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://.../win95/games/*
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://.../win98/games/*
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...innt50/games/*

**Smiling Spectre** · 07-05-2013, 08:00 AM

It's far from complete (rpg? strategy?), but gives nice insights too. I wouldn't guess "chess" and "cars" cathegories!

I wonder how could I get it more directly...

...ouch. Found it. Of sorts. %)

http://volftp.tiscali.it/i/j/liste-old/18/1.htm

Look on this "1780 files" here! %)

No, it cannot be traversed otherwise then putting 2.htm...356.htm in link. %)

But at least it will cover everything in DOS category!

MrFlibble · 07-05-2013, 03:02 PM

Oh yes, they have those old pages with some description of the stuff they have. Interestingly, some of the game demos etc. are still available from the new, working version of the same website. I've never bothered to check how much the "new" and the "old" stuff overlaps though.

Sadly some file from the "old" pages seem to have gone missing, like the demo of Apache (which was supposedly the original distributive: apchdem1.exe).

**Smiling Spectre** · 07-05-2013, 07:48 PM

Hmm... yes, you are right. Seems, all "demo" dir is non-existant. :/ Strange.

What is even more strange for me is links. I could swear that it was working ones when I tried it at work. But now all of them are going to (non-existant) FTP. %)

Oh, and this Apach is really rare now! Google gives only handful of links, and most of it are dead long ago. :/ I was able to locate it only here. Check it, please?

...also I must say that this "old" links are not reliable too.

It have huge lacunas, like 1-50 htm are exist, but 51-90 is not, then nothing from 140 to 195 and so on. :/

Well, as it is only guide to "real" dirs, it can be allright anyway. But pity. :/

MrFlibble · 10-05-2013, 03:42 PM

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What is even more strange for me is links. I could swear that it was working ones when I tried it at work. But now all of them are going to (non-existant) FTP. %)

You have to manually edit every link from "ftp://ftp.volftp.mondadori.com/" to "http://volftp.tiscali.it/", otherwise it won't work at all

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Oh, and this Apach is really rare now! Google gives only handful of links, and most of it are dead long ago. :/ I was able to locate it only here. Check it, please?

Ehh, that C|NET server now wants users who download files above 1MB to use their "downloader". A few years ago one could download large files directly with no problems...

Maybe the original file can be found on some magazine coverdisk?

**Smiling Spectre** · 11-05-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlibble

You have to manually edit every link from "ftp://ftp.volftp.mondadori.com/" to "http://volftp.tiscali.it/", otherwise it won't work at all

Well, I know.

But it worked "as is"! (At least, I think so). Strange. Mental bugs, I suppose.

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Ehh, that C|NET server now wants users who download files above 1MB to use their "downloader". A few years ago one could download large files directly with no problems...

Well, actually, it allows you to download file, if you'll press "direct link". I tested it before I published link.

Unfortunately, it writes some trash in the header of this "direct" file. :/ 512 bytes or so of pure trash.

Fortunately, it's exe, so MZ-signature can be found easily. So I stripped all this nonsense and resulting file is fine.

Get it here.

MrFlibble · 11-05-2013, 04:20 PM

Cool, thankies!

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