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Old 27-10-2004, 01:23 AM   #21
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Hi everybody! I'm from Italy.
Exult is ok, but it's not the only way to play U7 - there are
free patches that allow you to play the game in Win 2000/xp.
Search the internet for "U7 windows" and you'll find them.

Anyway: I've played U6, U7 part 1, U7 part 2 - SI.

There are many people saying that U7 is the best rpg ever.
(I refer to part one - the black gate)

THEY ARE CRAZY !!!!

U6 is tons better than U7 for me.
Ok, graphics are older; but the storyline is very cool.
The plot of U7 is really, really stupid.
Right in the early game you get to know who are the bad
guys, what you have to do, and you get an almost clear
idea on how the story will go on; and it's terribly linear.
OK, you can go wherever you want and enjoy the virtual
world, but if you keep following the main plot you get no
alternatives - all is flat, very easy and boring.
Not to mention some absurd downsides of the game - things
that in U6 worked well, and in U7 are a disaster.

U6 has a great main plot, with a very surprising ending
(the title is "the false prophet", and you get to know its
meaning only close to the end); moreover, there are lots
of things to do, somehow related to the main plot, that you
can accomplish in any order (see taking the shrines back, for
example).

Conclusion - play U6, don't even touch U7.
As far as U7 part 2-SI is concerned: well, this is a good game instead.
But it has nothing to do with the classic ultimas - it's more like
an arcade-adventure game with some rpg features. Really good,
but not an Ultima anymore. And the bad is that you cannot fully
understand the main plot without playing the awful U7 before. Worth playing, anyway.

Remember - there are only 3 real, great, true ULTIMAS:
U4, U5 and U6. From 7 to 9... ok, some of them may be good -
simply they're not Ultimas. So, if you're gonna try an Ultima game,
play U6 (I can't tell ya about 4 and 5 since I haven't played them -
but they must be very good too).

W Ultima!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Emanuele
                       
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Old 27-10-2004, 07:25 AM   #22
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Originally posted by emanuele_qr@Oct 27 2004, 03:23 AM
play U6 (I can't tell ya about 4 and 5 since I haven't played them -
but they must be very good too).

W Ultima!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Emanuele
Heh, try them out also, they're not bad too.
And I agree, Ultima 6 is really cool one of them. Though I didn't play Ultima 7 at all yet... :whistle: But I must add that Ultima 8 was also very good game. I almost died (not in the real sense) as I got to know the addon for it won't be out ever...
                       
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Old 27-10-2004, 02:46 PM   #23
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I agree that U6 storyline was better than black gate (actually one of the best stories overall in the whole genre) but it had other shortcomings and limitations and bugs (the murder in skara brae, suteks castle...) that you especially notice when replaying the games now, when you are not "overwhelmed" like you were when the games were new.
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Old 27-10-2004, 02:48 PM   #24
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Actually, Sutek has his own story, but you need to have played Ultima 5. There you meet him, and there he's good magician yet. Though I didn't finish Ultima 5 and therefore don't know what happened to him there...
                       
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Old 27-10-2004, 02:53 PM   #25
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Yes, I played U5 long after U6...

As far as I remember, Sutek was one of the mage council that you had to visit for the Power Words, and he was slightly mad then already... I was just confused about his push-me-pull-you machine, never found out what it did... and why was Gorn in the dungeon? A spy?
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Old 02-11-2004, 02:28 PM   #26
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High everybody!
I think ultima 7 might be a good game but
it runs very slowly on my system(1.4GH,256 RAm)
I played it with a patch and dosbox but it scrolls in blocks
the guy walks really slow, any suggestions?
                       
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Old 02-11-2004, 03:48 PM   #27
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http://exult.sourceforge.net/ will solve all your problems
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Old 02-11-2004, 04:31 PM   #28
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dont know how to handle this exult thing.it doesnt
find the right path when i start it
im from germany and i hardly understand what they
say in this instruktion file :crazy:
                       
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Old 02-11-2004, 06:20 PM   #29
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musst du die pfade nicht schon bei der installation angeben?
wenn nicht, ist im exult ordner eine datei die exult.cfg heisst, die editierst du damit da zb steht:

...
<blackgate>
<path>
f:\ultima/ultima 7\black gate
</path>
...

und

...
<serpentisle>
<path>
f:\ultima/ultima 7\serpent isle
</path>
...

pfade nimmst du natürlich deine eigenen.
bin sicher da gibts auch ne config die das automatisch macht, aber so gehts auch.
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Old 03-11-2004, 01:39 PM   #30
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WOW! :Brain: :w00t:
Das ist ja was ganz anderes als dosbox und vdm sound
Vielen dank für deine Hilfe!
Ich hatte beim installieren den pfad wohl angegeben der
stand allerdings dann nicht in der cfg file und ich hatte auch
keine ahnung wo ich den pfad dann hinschreiben sollte. :crazy:
jetzt läuft das spiel jedenfalls wesentlich besser k:

Wenn wir schon bei deutsch sind:
weißt du zufällig wo ich ne deutsche version von dsa2 oder dsa3
herkriege?

Wie auch immer, besten dank für die hilfe und noch viel spaß beim zocken.

for the english people:
My problems are gone, thanks to the forum.


                       
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