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View Poll Results: Best Rpg
Diablo II 15 10.87%
Never Winter Nights 9 6.52%
Dungeon Siege 0 0%
Gothic 7 5.07%
Morrowind 20 14.49%
Divine divinity 1 0.72%
Sacred 1 0.72%
Star wars knights of the old republic 12 8.70%
Baldurs Gate 2 23 16.67%
Fallout 11 7.97%
Fallout 2 20 14.49%
Planescape: Torment 13 9.42%
Mario RPG's (huh?) 6 4.35%
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Old 16-12-2004, 03:26 PM   #111
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And I prefer Gothic. Strangely no one voted fot it here, though it's a great game... :eeeeeh:
                       
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Old 16-12-2004, 03:42 PM   #112
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Where did your vote end up?
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Old 16-12-2004, 03:44 PM   #113
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In Baldur's Gate II, which I discovered before Gothic and which also is unbeaten best RPG for me. :wub:
                       
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Old 16-12-2004, 03:45 PM   #114
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Sigh,
KODP is still missing...
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Old 16-12-2004, 03:54 PM   #115
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What is Gothic like?

You know what I liked but never got anywhere because some ****** took it and lost it. Vampire Masquerades. What I played was excellent and I really want to play it again.
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Old 16-12-2004, 08:42 PM   #116
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Originally posted by Omuletzu@Dec 16 2004, 12:18 PM
If everybody says it's an RPG, than it's an RPG.
Nah, if everybody would say 2+2=5 that still wouldn't make the statement true.

But anyway, it's a matter of definition. To me, true RPGs are only those where combat and interaction with npcs/story are equally balanced. So Diablo, Dungeon Siege and the other clones are not real RPGs imo.

But do you guys remember all those FPS hack and slash RPGs of old? Dungeon Master comes to mind, which is considered to be the game that started the whole genre of dungeon crawlers, and all you ever do in that game is fight and collect loot, still it is considered to be a (hack&slash) RPG. I think it was the Ultima series that revolutionized the genre and gave the player interaction with the world that was not seen in this kind of games before.
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Old 17-12-2004, 09:00 AM   #117
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What is Gothic like?

i've only played Gothic 2 (planning on playing the first one some day)
But, in short, its a german RPG.
The graphics are okay and the controls are often strange and uneasy.

However the game itself is brilliantly made. Unlike most RPG games like Morrowind or KOTOR people have an actual life.
Each NPC will have his own daily schedual. The simple village folk will wake up in the morning and go listen to the Priest preaching some holy story near his deity's shrine and in the evening they'll go for a drink in the tavern (which is mostly empty during the day) and then go home and sleep.
The fisherman will go and fish, the shipbuilders will continue building their ship and the farmers will go out and farm their land.
In the monastery Monks will all go to prayer in the main chapel in the morning and then return to their jobs like tending the Monastery farms and cattle, or studying and such.

This is often nice when combined with a quest. For example in one thief quest you must steal some rich guy his ring (or was it a key?) But most of the time he works in his shop which is right in one of the busiests parts of the city thus making it impossible to rob him. So you must study his daily routine, its then that you'll see that, each night, he'll pass through a dark alley on his way home and that is where you rob him.

The gameplayworld is this much smaller than, say, Morrowind but also much more alive and realistic. And the landscaped are very nicely done aswell. A dark forest will actually feel gloomy with branches everywhere and dark trees and fog on the ground... this is something Morrowind did not achieve that well.

I'd say it has a brilliant atmosphere... I'd give you a better example of atmosphere in Gothic II, but I'd ruin the story of Gothic I then
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Old 17-12-2004, 09:09 AM   #118
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Sounds nice. But I'll porbably never get to play it. At that I cry.
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Old 17-12-2004, 09:14 AM   #119
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Well anyway, morrowind wins
here are some promo screens of a mod for morrowind I used to work on

Promo #1
Promo #2
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Old 17-12-2004, 09:28 AM   #120
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Did they ever release that long-awaited multiplayer mod for Morrowind or was that just a hoax?
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