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[Lizard]

Originally posted by Sebatianos+Mar 8 2005, 10:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sebatianos @ Mar 8 2005, 10:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tulac@Mar 8 2005, 10:33 PM
That's more of a communist celebration...

Well that's not true. It's just that in the ex-communist countries they made a really big deal out of this (because they canceled Mother's day - that's why this day replaced mother's day - what Yamcha said). But it is an international women's day (even Google changed it's sign - the second O was changed in the symbol for female.
But it's true, that mostly the native english speaking countries don't really know much about this day, although in commemorates the events that happened in the US (when women were trying to achieve labour equality and some of them got killed by the military). [/b][/quote]
to Maerlyn: maybe becouse of this???If you read all posts(or at least the ones of Sebastianos and Partizanka)You will get answer why we celebrate womens day...

[xoopx]

im sure im not alone when i ask;

what the hell are you kids talking about?

[Tulac]

Yes it was pretty much explained before, it's got to do with women getting independent, the communist thing, bahh who cares anyway no one is forced to celebrate it...

[Partizanka]

For someone who thinks they are so mature, you certainly have a very weak grasp of global history. It would take 10 seconds of searching to find the origins of Women's Day (Which are in fact, partially explained in this very thread).

As you are no doubt aware, equality in rights is not something that has existed universally. Almost every culture in history has had a difficult time granting women the same status as men at some point.

Now I am not some kind of radical feminist, but I think you misunderstand the nature of the holiday. It is a rememberence of the women who have struggled, suffered and died in the pursuit of justice and equality in the last century. Things many take for granted, like equal working conditions, the right to vote, and discrimination being considered a bad thing, were ideas that were almost non existant until the early 1900s.

The observation of the Holiday initially was by no means international, but perpetuated by groups that desired to fight for equality. In fact, it was rather remarkable that so many countries were having the same movements all at the same time.

I'll spare you the rest of the history lesson, but I hope you can understand it is not celebrating women just for being women. It is celebrating those women who struggled for equality in a world that said they would never be equals.

[Sebatianos]

Very well put Partizanka, but I'd just like to add, that this strugle is actaully still happening. Even in the "developed" world women aren't completely equal (there's still a lot of discrimination) and I won't even mention some undeveloped regions, where they are still stoning women to death for having intercourse and not being married.

[Omuletzu]

Congratulations.You have managed to impress me in such a way that i am forced to close this.

Nice present lads!

Edited by Wendy - inflammatory comments