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[twillight]

Originally Posted by yoga

Do You remember some time ago asked me - yoga, why you are so much obsessed with the game Betrayal at Krondor?
As an answer i stop forever discussion about this game after competent opinion of well respected twillight concerning bad graphic of BaK.

Oooh, I ruined someone's childhood Achievement completed!

Originally Posted by Capo

Cause stealing stuff is not good, guess is not like that is east-europe.

Who knows where yoga gets his stuff.
Also, legality of softwares varies from country to country. Let's trust each other that our copies are not warez, k?

[yoga]

Originally Posted by twillight

Oooh, I ruined someone's childhood Achievement completed!



Who knows where yoga gets his stuff.
Also, legality of softwares varies from country to country. Let's trust each other that our copies are not warez, k?

Dear twillight,
First pls excuse me i soil Yr thread with our
little misunderstanding with my friend Capo,
concerning fundamental question:
Is yoga pirate or not?
Hmmm.. i think this character yoga is not holly angel
but he is not bloody pirate at all.
...
As usually You are very kind.
Still BaK is my childhood love.Bocsánat.



OFF
Before hours i returned to my town.
My first target were my newborn red peppers (chillies).
High - about 25 sm.
Gladly, the are very good.
With foresight i put their plant pots in bigger
vessel, filled with enough water to be feed with water during my absence.
Moreover i supply my chillies with very effective bugs who eat their enemies - plant louses.
I had 13 chillies and only one died. Maybe fatal number is not good idea.
It is very good playing in desert Mohave (Fallout New Texas) to be surrounded by nice greenery and listening traditional Irish songs.
Only 2 passed games to the number 100.
Go, brave!

[twillight]

The funny thing is, Capo did not ruin anything, as I myself was ever-curious how can you lay hands on so many games.
Nao we know.

Grat to the chillies too. I have 3? 5? pots, and I use the harvest as C-vitamin source for the winter. Still have almost half the package thx to no snow around, and that I realised they should be eaten like spirit drank: slowly, very slowly. One cup of snaps should be drank under the same time as a pint beer

[yoga]

Originally Posted by twillight

The funny thing is, Capo did not ruin anything, as I myself was ever-curious how can you lay hands on so many games.
Nao we know.

Grat to the chillies too. I have 3? 5? pots, and I use the harvest as C-vitamin source for the winter. Still have almost half the package thx to no snow around, and that I realised they should be eaten like spirit drank: slowly, very slowly. One cup of snaps should be drank under the same time as a pint beer

True!
When i eat a small piece of my chillies then my speed is increased from 1 meter/sec. to 50 meter/sec.
Before some time i visited a restaurant in the nice town of Budapest.
I asked the waiter to offer me the very best Hungarian dish.
And he offered me goulash.
But, but it was terrible dish, amigo.
So much chillies in this goulash than Yr humble slave started to cry, tears on my face and all kitchen personnel stared on me and smiled.
You are abs. crazy!
How can You, Hungarians, like so much dish full of chillies?!
.. i am sure that Italians for example do not use chillies at all.
But Yr wine of Tokay is the best in the world.
Bravo!

PS:
Have i kill all demolishers around or not?
i visited some private house, steeled all stuff and .... lost all karma!
To reload game and be a good boy?

[twillight]

Originally Posted by yoga

And he offered me goulash.
But, but it was terrible dish, amigo.
So much chillies in this goulash than Yr humble slave started to cry, tears on my face and all kitchen personnel stared on me and smiled.
You are abs. crazy!
How can You, Hungarians, like so much dish full of chillies?!
.. i am sure that Italians for example do not use chillies at all.
But Yr wine of Tokay is the best in the world.
Bravo!

PS:
Have i kill all demolishers around or not?
i visited some private house, steeled all stuff and .... lost all karma!
To reload game and be a good boy?

Haha, gulash don't even has chilli in it! Just some regular, 10 times weaker than chilli paprika
You'd want spicy food, you should order some at the local asian-fastfood kiosque
Otherwise, people usually complain the fat in hungarian foods (gulash, stuffed paprika, pörkölt, hurka etc.), not its spicyness, lol

NEW VEGAS: as far as I remember you are better off reloading. Bad guys even in the fallout-series don't gain much in return. Best to only attack who attacks you/is quest to kill.

[yoga]

Originally Posted by twillight

Haha, gulash don't even has chilli in it! Just some regular, 10 times weaker than chilli paprika
You'd want spicy food, you should order some at the local asian-fastfood kiosque
Otherwise, people usually complain the fat in hungarian foods (gulash, stuffed paprika, pörkölt, hurka etc.), not its spicyness, lol

NEW VEGAS: as far as I remember you are better off reloading. Bad guys even in the fallout-series don't gain much in return. Best to only attack who attacks you/is quest to kill.

Rodger that!
Merci.

[twillight]

Ye, I know. This game likely sux. Who cares, I have it, never tried it, but seems to work, so let's give it a try!

And I'll do it completely blind!
Well, after reading the manual. Ok, not the manual what sux, but some source which contain the information the manual should have.

Skills: the new versions are confusing like heck, each skill giving different bonuses based on class, but I'd be damned to look all these and check all the artefacts like for the M6-8. I'll just go by the proficiencies.
Axes gone for good, they never could design a good one anyway. For any reason there came thrown weapons which I could care less. Unarmed is still here which again not attractive for me.
Removing daggers on the other hand seriously limited things. No sword+dagger by expert level, no dagger at all to mage/lich...
Spells got merged: there is no more fire/earth/etc., just "elemental", also only spirit remained from cleric spells. But just to f* u up now learning spells is again confusing as heck, so again i'll just go with what I find along.
There still is the IDmonster, and all the accustomed supplementary skills. Fine for me. Crucial ones are, based on previous installments:repair, perception, id item, disarm. Given that hirelings also got messed up, preparing to develop IDitem.

Classes: initially I'd choose Gladiator, Lich, Assassin and Druid just for sounding cool. Unfortunately druid still sux for being the unarmed fighter instead of a caster, so reconsider by skill-need.
I'll need Priest. For whatever reason this class, despite how I hate it for forcing religion on your throat, has GM repair item. And the last thing you want to is a broken weapon in a big fight, so there you go.
GM Perception is cool, and dodge allows some interesting messing around with Ranger. Why not.
ID item is Mage. Mage is a Priest clone here, and should fok it. I'll spend some gold on ID instead, but still go with a Lich!
Fourth... Skill-wise Assassin would have GM disarm, but than I'd lack the tank making my party fragile. Gladiator sounds so awesome!
Gladiator: spear + shield gm, armsmater + body building gm, disarm m
Assassin: blade can go gm but who wants that. Spear m, shield expert only. Hm, maybe spear + sword combo from MM6.

Races: elf gives accuracy (at the price of endurance), so ranger will of course be elf. Dwarf is the ultimate fighter throwing away magic for more stats (HP). Halforc gains might for speed, so gladiator only.

Good ideas until now:
- simplified character progression. This might prevent you start with 1 HP mages and crap.
- less, but hopefully each-of-them useful spells.

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Ok, the intro sux. The graphic is lower than expected even from a wallpaint, the "story" is at best an afterthought, but it is not miserable.
And although the character-portraits are limited, and seems to be attached to the voice, but I don't feel this a problem. Prequels had either terrible draws, or 50 years old pornstar-faces mostly, so I always chose the same faces. Here I feel all choices viable.

The sound-setting is still only applies after you hit ok, making the setting difficult as you don't know what you are doing.

Patch seems a must. I could care less for most features of the official patch, but HP/MP regeneration IS an issue. You'll notice if this is installed as there is a background-music in the main menu, but no version-number is anywhere.

1.3a patch is unofficial and should stricktly be installed after the official patch is applied. I have no idea how you know it was applied.
It is like a usual patch, messes around numbers which had no problem for "rebalancing", and "reinstalling original intention", and fixes invaluable features, like done quests not removed like you couldn't remember anyway.
The parts that can be useful are a quest working properly (because random can generate the reward elsewhere), some locks remaining open (puzzle related?), and certain dungeons can be done not just for the first, uninterrupted go, or prevented to be accessible if planned conditions don't met (aka. opening puzzle not solved).
I decided to install this, but as it is a double-edged sword, and doesn't seem to do anything from the absolutely must have category, you should decided wether you want it or not.
Also worth mention there are some other unofficial patches (1.3, 2.0), but those are lamer than this and not compatible.

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I made my troops.
Too bad you can't choose ALL the skills in the game, I'd give throwing to my lich-wannabe. Who will be a half-orc from sheer frustration.

Races are totally at imbalance.
First: humans: unless you want a character with absolutely balanced stats, you should not bother.
Second: Elves rock. Their prime stat is accuracy which is always useful to anyone, and the bad-stat is endurance where 3 point won't hurt you that much. If you minimalise the bad-stat and max the prime stat you'll still have 15 extra statpoint to distribute if all other stats are 10. This is 2 more than for any other races. So there is no reason to not havea full-elf party.
Dwarf: the HP-powerhouse. If you want a meatshield, make a dwarf, he1ll start with double HP (40 instead of 20 if endurance is maxed (25 at start), and the others have 7-10 for comparsion).
Half-orc: speed being the bad-stat is already not attractive, and might being the prime stat is at best mediocre. No hugh HP, no repair gm for gladiator... the only really good in them is they still gain some extra stats if you go with the racial stats, and they have the best portrait.

When starting the game did not respond after loading. I alt-tabbed, and it started to work. Lag? Annoying definitely. But it works, so oh-well. Oh,and the character-sheets' portrait are associated to wrong characters.
My party:

[twillight]

It is terrible. The first island is EMPTY. Nothing to pick up.
Seems there is no alchemy in the game (relief), no amount of item restriction (relief), no food (relief), no respect (relief. No need to worry for paying gold and killing townguards for bad deeds).
Now you actually have to walk inside houses. I don't know why the old "we talk standing in the door" method did not fit, but whatever. Maybe the goofy looking 3D-monster-people were more important. Also, no hirelings on the street (or in houses). Yet.

I wandered around pushing useless buttons, entering The Secret Cow Level, and got frightened when jumped from very high (into water so no harm done, but swimming seems pointless).

Then came The Attack of the Red Dots!
Seriously, I could not identify what they were at all.

There are though two reasons why I probably won't play this game unfortunately:
- before the gamebreaking feature I confess I got computer-sickness. That's a problem.
- the unavoidable problem though is the loading system. Whenever I load I have to alt+tab to get the screen back from the loading screen. Also, after changing area, the game just froze. If this'll happen every single time I'll enter a dungeon, I'll be forced to give up and watch the cutscenes on youtube or something.

By the way, what crappy storytelling is this? My party asced around about some guy I have no idea who he is. The cutscene also told this:
"After the tremendous losses of the battle of Fondale, noone was eager to go to their death. A few have tried - none have returned."

WHUT? After a lot of people died noone tried to go and die, and those who did try to go there to die have not succeeded because they died?!? WHO SMOKED WHAT?

[yoga]

Relax, amigo, relax.

Concerning my intention,
very politely will note,
You are wrong.
..and take it easy.
Anyway MM9 is only game and...stupid game..

[twillight]

Originally Posted by yoga

Relax, amigo, relax.

Concerning my intention,
very politely will note,
You are wrong.
..and take it easy.
Anyway MM9 is only game and...stupid game..

While it might not be obvious to others, I actually like(d) MM9. The changes were enough to produce a next installment, and if the story correct/explains itself later, it might even be good.

It is just obviously rushed. And that loading-problem.