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[chumloofah]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE("Japofran")</div>

Last crusade is cooler, (way) funnier and more original than Atlantis[/b]

How can what is essentially an interactive version of a movie be more original than an original story?

[Japo]

Being so. I didn't mean the story, the one in Atlantis isn't out of the ordinary either IMO. The story in Last Crusade was cool in the movie and it's cool in the game, and not only the content of the story but also how it's told, that is the script, and both the movie and the game have *action* or at least inspire the idea of action. An adventure game with action is hard to come by. If the story had to be original for an adventure game to be cool, you'd never re-play any one including Last Crusade or Atlantis, since you already know the story.

I meant the gameplay, Atlantis is a run-of-the-mill adventure, just resolve puzzles and go forward through conversation after conversation towards the big-bang ending. Whereas Last Crusade has tons of things that make the gameplay original, I love when you steal the plane and there are two ways of doing it and the humour is great. (This is a personal opinion but for me the humour in Last Crusae is better than in Atlantis regardless of the story, I'd say that Last Crusade tries to be funnier than Atlantis to start with, and IMO it succeeds.) Okay Atlantis also had some of these elements (car chase, balloon travel, the fights are still there...), but here it's only following the path trodden by its predecesor Last Crusade. And these elements look more like added (like sub-games) to a run-of-the-mill adventure than something integrated into the game making it synergically richer; but again I guess I can't claim this as more than a personal opinion. The alternative paths in Atlantis are good to enhance the replay value but they don't add anything extraordinary.

Anyway I can't be more nostalgic about Last Crusade because I played it years after Atlantis.

[Pietafon]

Syberia 1 and 2 - for graphics, story and specific climate
Neverhood - for humour and idea
Broken sword 2 - for lots of fun while playing it

An of course Indiana Jones series - for... Indy! :w00t:

[chumloofah]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Japofran @ Sep 11 2007, 02:18 AM) [snapback]310144[/snapback]</div>

Being so. I didn't mean the story, the one in Atlantis isn't out of the ordinary either IMO. The story in Last Crusade was cool in the movie and it's cool in the game, and not only the content of the story but also how it's told, that is the script, and both the movie and the game have *action* or at least inspire the idea of action. An adventure game with action is hard to come by. If the story had to be original for an adventure game to be cool, you'd never re-play any one including Last Crusade or Atlantis, since you already know the story.

I meant the gameplay, Atlantis is a run-of-the-mill adventure, just resolve puzzles and go forward through conversation after conversation towards the big-bang ending. Whereas Last Crusade has tons of things that make the gameplay original, I love when you steal the plane and there are two ways of doing it and the humour is great. (This is a personal opinion but for me the humour in Last Crusae is better than in Atlantis regardless of the story, I'd say that Last Crusade tries to be funnier than Atlantis to start with, and IMO it succeeds.) Okay Atlantis also had some of these elements (car chase, balloon travel, the fights are still there...), but here it's only following the path trodden by its predecesor Last Crusade. And these elements look more like added (like sub-games) to a run-of-the-mill adventure than something integrated into the game making it synergically richer; but again I guess I can't claim this as more than a personal opinion. The alternative paths in Atlantis are good to enhance the replay value but they don't add anything extraordinary.

Anyway I can't be more nostalgic about Last Crusade because I played it years after Atlantis.
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I'm really having no luck at all understanding your perspective here
Seems to me your only real beef with FoA is it came out too late.
Taking the ability to solve one puzzle in two ways over what is really three completely different games using different styles (that is puzzle based, action based and conversation based)...
Don't get it.
Then again, I never liked Last Crusade.
The jokes were delivered better in the movie, and the game really didn't add much, if anything, to that classiest of classy flicks.
If you want to prefer inferior products I won't interfere
heehee

[Lulu_Jane]

I know this is off topic, but I wonder what horrific tie-in game will be released with the new Indy movie?

Incidentally, NEW INDY MOVIE! *hyperventilates*

[gregor]

A FPS where you will kill the mercs until they will uncover and ancient evil in form of ehm.... swarm which will then stick to their head and slowly begin to change them. then you will fight these creatures (which will be basically same only a bit modified models) and in the end you will win with a big explosion.


a cutscene follows - something survived the explosion... get ready for part 2 :-P


anyway my favourite ones are the first ones on Spectrum, which brought a lot of fun, Smrkci (the smurfs) and later Eurorun, which i never finished. mainly because like Floor 13 it already predifines that you will loose when you jsut start thegame (yup the gambling isnt' realyl andom and as well as some other events. which made it extremely difficult to finish the game as you need to get it all right plus all scripted events would have to be favourable towards you.

[chumloofah]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE("Lulu_Jane")</div>

Incidentally, NEW INDY MOVIE! *hyperventilates*[/b]

i know!
You know that feeling were you're really excited but can't get away from the dread of being disappointed?
That's what I got.

[Lulu_Jane]

Well, I do think I'll just be ignoring the Shia LeBeof portion of the movie, mentally blacking him out. But OH MY GOD RAY WINSTONE AND INDY!

*calms down slightly*

But, yes, you're right, it could be heartbreaking LOL

[tea3rd]

i would have to say broken sword 2 or loom those are fun

[Borodin]

Have to say that I've been very impressed with the ongoing Sam & Max series of series. Not only it is great to see an indie make good without the backing of a Big Company like LucasArts, it's just great adventure gaming.