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[Reup]

Damn. I hope they're not going to flame the Danish and Norwegian topics on the forum... (and the Dutch as well, since Niles posted this here...) :blink:

[Himmler]

we got capable moderators here...we're safe

(if not..i must gather a rescue sqad...)

[Master MC]

That is most definately the funniest cartoon concerning this topic so far, I might mention.
If you want to see the other notorious cartoons (there seems to be some sort of cencorship on it), here they are: Danish Cartoons (Dutch site)

[Chuck the plant]

There was a one-hour-feature on the radio here just when I drove home a few hours ago. It was about religious muslim leaders from practically everywhere (larger feature on the Imams of the six "districts" of french muslims), who were speaking up against the violence and trying to calm the waves. One might wonder why this is not shown in the mainstream-media, I for one don't... :whistle:

Maybe beacuse it's easier to influence people to think in black and white - like Himmler perfectly shows us here - if you only show the bad side of a thing... really, who would stick to their TV for "breaking news: no violent riots in Europe" or something like that?

Another thing: As we all know by now, the "outrage" was deliberatly evoked by the danish newspaper in question when the first publishing of those pictures didn't quite cause the riot they were obviously hoping for by going directly for mulsims to comment on those pictures... shows us something about THEIR attitude as well, does it not? :not_ok:

[Tulac]

Yes there are moderate Muslims, but they mostly live in Europe and other civilized places, the further east you go the less moderate they are...

[Master MC]

I should make a poll 'bout this.

[Skumpaq]

Originally posted by Chuck the plant@Feb 6 2006, 09:24 PM
There was a one-hour-feature on the radio here just when I drove home a few hours ago. It was about religious muslim leaders from practically everywhere (larger feature on the Imams of the six "districts" of french muslims), who were speaking up against the violence and trying to calm the waves. One might wonder why this is not shown in the mainstream-media, I for one don't...* :whistle:

Maybe beacuse it's easier to influence people to think in black and white - like Himmler perfectly shows us here - if you only show the bad side of a thing... really, who would stick to their TV for "breaking news: no violent riots in Europe" or something like that?

Another thing: As we all know by now, the "outrage" was deliberatly evoked by the danish newspaper in question when the first publishing of those pictures didn't quite cause the riot they were obviously hoping for by going directly for mulsims to comment on those pictures... shows us something about THEIR attitude as well, does it not?* :not_ok:

You do know that there were some Imams from Denmark who traveled to the Middle-East to tell the countries about the cartoons, but they also brought along some other pictures that they claimed were displayed in the danish newspaper but they werent, and these pictures were very insulting...? (the newspaper have also said that they would'nt have published the pictures if they were offered to them.)

-edited due to Sebatianos' teasing...

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Skumpaq@Feb 6 2006, 11:47 PM
but they also brought along some pictures who were never displayed in the danish newspaper...?

I should certainly hope so. If I were to go back home I'd bring tons of personal photos that I wouldn't want a newspaper to publish either.

:bleh:

[gregor]

ehm Seb do you remember that CD cover with "virgin" Mary and baby Jesus portiaed as a rat??? there was an outrage although no one burned down any embassy

What i find particullarly dirsturbing is the instigation.

fact 1: cartoons were published in September and no one was bothered by them.
fact 2: i just saw a guy from protesters saying all they are demanding is official appology from Danish prime minister - how come someone told them abotu the cartoon and not about the fact that he already appologiezed??? Instigators!
fact 3: while some i saw were funny (to me) some of the caricatures were really insulting (picturing someone's god as a dirty pig is just rude)
fact 4: a lot of muslim countries forbid mocking from other religions. Such as for example Indonesia. Censorship is very strickt on this matter and for example Life of brian form Monthy Payton was never shown there because it is considered to be offensive to Christians. is it then a surprise that they demand the same in other countries?

And to rebuke some of the stereotypes - it is not true taht the more you go to the east the more extreemist religions you will face. It is true that people in Asia are religious, yet for example majority of muslims in indonesia are not extreemists.

And it is not true that islam is violent religion. in fact it could be that it is even less violent than christianity. how is that possible? well for starters you can not just confess when you kill someone and then everything is ok. no a sin is a sin and remains a sin and if you do it you go to hell. no money, no prayer can make it go away. while in christianity this is not the case. example if you are religious, you can steal and then go to confession and everything will be ok. you wont see your worst nightmare in afterlife.

yes, there are quite a few terrorist groups out there. but i don't think they are spawned by religion but by situation those people are in. illiteracy, poor living conditions, no hope of brighter tommorrow, repression, being treated as inferior etc. the list goes on.
Oh and when you think abotu the clean peacefull catholic religion, think abotu the IRA, ETA, the extremist in Corsica, Cosa Nostra and finnaly "the slaughterhosue" that happened in the Balkans.

[TheGiantMidgit]

What.... subtle... humour. The writer should really be commended for his wit.